On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Beth In Alaska wrote:
>> No doubt, if you can take in energy, and transform it to the kind you
>> need, you'll be powered forever, because the only thing that ever
>> really changes, is polarity (sounds deep, neh?).
>
> Thats true . Energy is really the most intere
Healthy eating when trying to lose fat is whatever diet works best for
you in reducing the fat without raising your cholesterol or blood
sugar.
For me, it's low carb, low cal, low fat, with a moderate exercise
plan. I've lost over 160 pounds doing that.
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Gruss Got
> Weegs wrote:
> you dance like a white boy :)
>
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> *dances*
>> *boogey*
>> *shuffle* *shuffle*
>> *cabbage patch*
>
What? There was no macarena or chicken dance in there ...
>wrote:
> *dances*
> *boogey*
> *shuffle* *shuffle*
> *cabbage patch*
>
> 2008/8/18 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> So it comes down to this: you might be one of those lucky people who
>> can really eat just about anything as long as you keep you calories
>> reasonable and not gain fat.
Buuutt
you dance like a white boy :)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> *dances*
> *boogey*
> *shuffle* *shuffle*
> *cabbage patch*
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2008/8/18 Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> So it comes down to this: you might be one of those lucky people who
> can really eat just about anything as long as you keep you calories
> reasonable and not gain fat.
>
~~
> gMoney wrote:
> Is that really too generic as to be utterly unsustainable by the average
> person? I sustain it, and i'm the definition of average :)
>
Yes! Seriously, look around you and see how many people are 15% BF or
less. There's not too many. And many of those who are are that way
out
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That very likely you and 90% of people including doctors don't know
> what's "healthy" and/or define so generically as to be utterly
> unsustainable by the average person.
That's why you ignore all that crap that gets over
> gMoney wrote:
> What's your point, Gruss? I don't get what you are driving at here.
That very likely you and 90% of people including doctors don't know
what's "healthy" and/or define so generically as to be utterly
unsustainable by the average person.
A random look at the body fat percentage of
> gMoney wrote:
> What do you mean? Healthy is.healthy. Get your vitamins, get your
> proteins, don't overeat, avoid too much salt, sugar, etc. etcall the
> common sense stuff we all know, even if we don't always follow it.
>
> Why is that different if you are trying to lose fat?
>
Is a di
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Now that you're thinking about that and writing out that healthy diet,
> estimate the number of people with 20lbs of fat or more to lose that
> can stay on the diet you're writing down more than 1 week.
What's your point, G
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Define healthy when one is trying to lose fat. I dare you.
>
What do you mean? Healthy is.healthy. Get your vitamins, get your
proteins, don't overeat, avoid too much salt, sugar, etc. etcall the
common sense stuff
> gMoney wrote:
> Define healthy when one is trying to lose fat. I dare you.
>
Now that you're thinking about that and writing out that healthy diet,
estimate the number of people with 20lbs of fat or more to lose that
can stay on the diet you're writing down more than 1 week.
~~
> gMoney wrote:
> to says the same thing: Eat healthy, exercise.
>
Define healthy when one is trying to lose fat. I dare you.
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From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:14 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Depression(was Re
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Billy Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If there is anything to learn from the story of Jesus, it's that bad stuff
> happens even to the best person. The question then is not 'why did this
> happen?' but is 'what will I do now?'
I took a Philosophy of God elective
happen?' but is 'what will I do now?'
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From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:46 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Depression(was Re: Need suggestions ...)
>Maybe its the age I'm at but people keep dying
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Deanna Schneider <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure that docs really ignore them as much as patients do. It's
> WORK to change your core thinking patterns. It's so much easier to
> take a pill.
>
That's what I'm thinkingthe old "Can't you just prescrib
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:38 AM, G Money wrote:
>
>
> Is it because these treatments take longer and cost more money? Is it
> because they ask more from the patients? Just curious why you think they are
> ignored.
>
I'm not sure that docs really ignore them as much as patients do. It's
WORK to cha
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Larry Lyons wrote:
> What I find irritating in general about this is that the results are clear,
> CT or REBT have been shown to be as effective as prescribing medication for
> depression. yet these studies are dismissed or ignored, even though in terms
> of the
>> What I find irritating in general about this is that the results are clear,
>> CT or REBT have been shown to be as effective as prescribing medication for
>> depression. yet these studies are dismissed or ignored, even though in terms
>> of the quality of these studies they're far superior to wh
>> That's why this is usually a controversial discussion. People suffer
>> from these afflictions and many times this discussion is viewed as a
>> "just suck it up" discussion rather than a "are we going about this
>> correctly" discussion.
>
>
>Each case is probably unique, so each should be diag
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I find irritating in general about this is that the results are clear,
> CT or REBT have been shown to be as effective as prescribing medication for
> depression. yet these studies are dismissed or ignored, even though
> > LL wrote:
> > To a great extent anti-depressants are not needed in treating most
> cases of depression.
>
> That's why this is usually a controversial discussion. People suffer
> from these afflictions and many times this discussion is viewed as a
> "just suck it up" discussion rather than a
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's why this is usually a controversial discussion. People suffer
> from these afflictions and many times this discussion is viewed as a
> "just suck it up" discussion rather than a "are we going about this
> correctly" d
> LL wrote:
> To a great extent anti-depressants are not needed in treating most cases of
> depression.
That's why this is usually a controversial discussion. People suffer
from these afflictions and many times this discussion is viewed as a
"just suck it up" discussion rather than a "are we goi
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From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 18 August 2008 10:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Depression(was Re: Need suggestions ...)
Most metal illnesses have no
>> JJ wrote:
>> You are saying that the doctor's claim that 99% of depression cases don't
>> need meds is not strong enough?
>>
>
>Well the claim is based on his 40 years of experience in treating depression.
>
>What I"m saying isn't strong enough is that he's only talking about
>depression - I thi
>Thank you to everyone, I'm working on something to post to one of my
>blogs about her. She had a wonderfully full life, touched the lives
>of many people.
>
>As for the depression aspect of things, my wife is bipolar and has
>just started taking the medications - the effect is noticeable! Beth
>
To a great extent anti-depressants are not needed in treating most cases of
depression. The research is very clear on this, cognitive-behavior therapies,
such as Ellis' Rational Emotive Therapy, or Beck's Cognitive Therapy for
Depression, have been shown to be more effective than anti-depressant
Most metal illnesses have no cure, yet they've not found a way to
permanently correct the chemical imbalances in the brain that cause
clinical depression, ADD, ADHD, and any number of conditions. Until that
time treating the symptoms is all we have.
For some, the drugs are the only way to g
Having had a nervous breakdown around 10+ years ago, I can safely say that
when I was prescribed anti depressants I was like I am not a mental case
(although some might disagree).
The point is that when your anxiety levels are extreme, the right meds help
tremendously. I tried alternative natural
> No doubt, if you can take in energy, and transform it to the kind you
> need, you'll be powered forever, because the only thing that ever
> really changes, is polarity (sounds deep, neh?).
Thats true . Energy is really the most interesting thing. But I'm not sure
I understand how it applies t
C.
man...
sorry for your loss..
i, at times get very down. you know, swinging down.
but looking back, have always been a little gloomy, as you may have been..
dont take every ones word as to what you are supposed to feel like.
being down can be good. so you gain some weight.
have a bad night mare
> MJ wrote:
> such a wide-ranging generalization that medication is something that is not
> necessary, when in many cases it is life-saving.
>
Sure, but the point is whether there are other non-drug treatments
that would have the same efficacy without the side effects of the
billions spent on Pha
> JJ wrote:
> You are saying that the doctor's claim that 99% of depression cases don't
> need meds is not strong enough?
>
Well the claim is based on his 40 years of experience in treating depression.
What I"m saying isn't strong enough is that he's only talking about
depression - I think the sa
> The Doc is claiming that 99% of depression cases don't need meds and
> that depression meds come with serious side effects that there's no
> good reason for - i.e., the pills are a scam.
I'd agree that throwing stats around with no basis for them is a dangerous
thing. Do we over-medicate? Absol
>Maybe its the age I'm at but people keep dying and kids keep getting sick,
>and children being abused, neglected and killed, that if there was some sort
>of force that gave a shit about us, these things wouldn't happen.
Not sure such theological questions are something I want to really get
com
Without any research done at all, I have to call you on a very, very strong
statement.
You are saying that the doctor's claim that 99% of depression cases don't
need meds is not strong enough?
What would you say the percentage is, then? 100%? How many nines? 99.99%?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:07
> Mary Jo wrote:
> As for the doctor claiming that depression is not a disease, well while I
> would agree that anti-depressants are given far too often
The Doc is claiming that 99% of depression cases don't need meds and
that depression meds come with serious side effects that there's no
good re
Thank you to everyone, I'm working on something to post to one of my
blogs about her. She had a wonderfully full life, touched the lives
of many people.
As for the depression aspect of things, my wife is bipolar and has
just started taking the medications - the effect is noticeable! Beth
is righ
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Beth In Alaska wrote:
>> I find solace in the idea that everything happens for a reason. I
>> feel there is some sort of Force -- perhaps God, perhaps plain old
>> Consciousness, perhaps something Unconceivable (beyond the fact that
>> it's unconceivable, which in
> I find solace in the idea that everything happens for a reason. I
> feel there is some sort of Force -- perhaps God, perhaps plain old
> Consciousness, perhaps something Unconceivable (beyond the fact that
> it's unconceivable, which in itself, is a form of conception;]) --
> showing us... if w
Hatton,
I'm so sorry about your Grandmother. I'm close with mine and really
empathize.
And I never think of you as angry or sad, so I hope the meds help you feel
like yourself again.
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From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: Saturday,
>Today was day two of taking them. This morning I got the call that my
>grandmother, who was a major influence in my life, had passed away in
>the night. I think someone upstairs was looking out for me!
So sorry to hear about your grandmother, hope the medication your are on will
help, but keep
Condolences, C.H.
I find solace in the idea that everything happens for a reason. I
feel there is some sort of Force -- perhaps God, perhaps plain old
Consciousness, perhaps something Unconceivable (beyond the fact that
it's unconceivable, which in itself, is a form of conception;]) --
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