Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I'm confused by this statement. Who has said "since I can't explain it, it can't be true?" That's not a scientific outlook at all. It resembles religious dogma more than anything. On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > > Besides the other approach suggests that if something can'

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Scott Stroz
April 16, 2010 9:15 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report > > >> Ok, so once you start with "he created us"what more is there to >> ask.  You've already answered every question.  "He created us, >&

RE: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Eric Roberts
, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report > Ok, so once you start with "he created us"what more is there to > ask. You've already answered every question. "He created us, > therefore, it's his will, it's the way he acts, etc." It's an

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Kris Sisk wrote: > For me it's more like "God created us, but how? And why?" > Those are my questions too. "How" Science: Big bang, the evolution Religion/Philsophy: Intelligent design "why" Science: No comment. Religion\Philosophy: This question is why

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Vivec
like women. *nod* *nod* On 16 April 2010 10:15, Kris Sisk wrote: because there are things, even without taking any potential supernatural influence out of the equation, that mankind will never understand. ~| Want to reach the C

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Kris Sisk
> Ok, so once you start with "he created us"what more is there to > ask. You've already answered every question. "He created us, > therefore, it's his will, it's the way he acts, etc." It's an > intellectual dead end. Everytime you can't figure something out, the > default answer becom

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread Kris Sisk
>Kris - if you were bothered with me pointing out the obvious I >seriously suggest you rejoin the list with a creatively anonymous >name. I know you don't have the benifit of seeing several others on >this list go through this ID changeover. I personally think it may be >a good move to d

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-16 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > The scientific part of ID theory doesn't try to prove ID. It tries to > DISPROVE the idea that life as we know it is possible without a guiding > hand. And, unless you buy the idea of parts of a cell joining together for > no reason to create c

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Cameron Childress
> >> >> >> > Ok, let's get this clear: The state educational board gave ID a > chance to go head to head with evolution to determine it's > scientific relavance. The reason the decided it was relevant is > because not one single scientist showed up to defend evolution. Not. > One. Kinda ha

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Cameron Childress
If someone posts from a work account using their real name that's a pretty clear signal that they re okay with people knowing who they are and where they work. I don't see anything wrong with plugging in the domain to see what the company is. We have plenty of folks on this list who mask

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Ok, so once you start with "he created us"what more is there to ask. You've already answered every question. "He created us, therefore, it's his will, it's the way he acts, etc." It's an intellectual dead end. Everytime you can't figure something out, the default answer becomes, "becaus

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Kris Sisk
Yes, and the state school board is laymen. My point is that ID may not have made it into the curriculum to begin with had anyone bothered to show up in opposition to it. The scientific part of ID theory doesn't try to prove ID. It tries to DISPROVE the idea that life as we know it is possible w

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Kris Sisk
Sorry. I posted that a couple minutes after reading the post that put out my personal details and, worse yet, implied that I might be connected to WBC somehow. I was still steaming a bit and it seeped into the last part of that post. Thank you though. If you like the site you might want to chec

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
I agree it was a little uncool to put those details up, which is why I attempted to use those same details to show you a better welcome. I will admit that I also run quick searches on new peeps on communities I am active in when they start posting. I also do the same with dates after the first on

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Ian Skinner
On 4/15/2010 2:28 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > Kinda hard to justify turning away a theory as not valid when you can't get > any of its critics to answer the invitation. > Probably because all the critics know it is not a "Scientific" theory. But the problem becomes that in science the word theo

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Kris Sisk
>Welcome, Kris. > >gckschools is a CF site! > >woohoo. > >I also see you are using Moodle. (a php-based lms). how do you like it? I >have been meaning to install it locally and play with it (I spent a decade >writing interactive video disk courseware, and lots of cbt, before >multimedia was called

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Kris Sisk
>> Hey, should we all be honored that Kirk Cameron has made an appearance >> on our mailing list? > >Kris Sisk is posting from gckschools.com, which is Garden City Public >Schools, Kansas - home of the "earth is only 6,000 years old and >Dinosaurs were planted by scientists in a huge conspiracy" e

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Nope its a traditional fake religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_pink_unicorn >From wikipedia: The Invisible Pink Unicorn (IPU) is the goddess of a parody religion used to satirize theistic beliefs, taking the form of a unicorn that is paradoxically both invisible and pink. This make

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:24 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > hey what about the Invisible Pink Unicorn? I think that one's Scientology. -Cameron ... ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them kno

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
hey what about the Invisible Pink Unicorn? On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: >> Eh...right...that's like saying you dropped a laptop and the CPU >> suddenly became a GPU for no reason. > > If you want to reduce it to thi

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Apr 14, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Kris Sisk wrote: > Eh...right...that's like saying you dropped a laptop and the CPU > suddenly became a GPU for no reason. If you want to reduce it to this sort of nonsense analogy then 'the big booming voice commanded it and the tooth fairy said it was good' i

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Skinner
On 4/12/2010 10:19 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > that mental image caused me to throw up in my mouth a little. > So you emphasize with how powerful of an affect seeing that could have on somebody, causing them to mistype a word or two here or there. ~

RE: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Eric Roberts
They lost the Minority leader in Vancouver? -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report Where'd Kirk Cameron go...? I wanted to ask him about l

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
that mental image caused me to throw up in my mouth a little. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > On 4/12/2010 9:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> what does psychoanalytic underwear have to do with it? >> > > > Seeing a psychoanalyst with a beard, mustache and a large cigar ru

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread G Money
Where'd Kirk Cameron go...? I wanted to ask him about losing his Boner in Vancouver. (i'm going to hell.) On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dana wrote: > > political autocorrect-ness run amok, I say. > > =) <--- politically correct humor icon > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Dana
political autocorrect-ness run amok, I say. =) <--- politically correct humor icon On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > On 4/12/2010 9:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> what does psychoanalytic underwear have to do with it? >> > > > Seeing a psychoanalyst with a beard, mustac

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Medic
Ya, Freudian slips can happen to anybody. For instance just this morning when I was having breakfast with my wife I meant to say "Can you pass the butter." but instead I said "You ruined my fucking life you bitch!" badumbum. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > On 4/12/2010

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Skinner
On 4/12/2010 9:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > what does psychoanalytic underwear have to do with it? > Seeing a psychoanalyst with a beard, mustache and a large cigar running around in his slip obviously caused Mr. Vivec to mistype his message. ~

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
what does psychoanalytic underwear have to do with it? On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > On 4/12/2010 9:25 AM, Vivec wrote: >> How did that happen...:-\ >> > > Freudian slip? > > > ~| Want to reach the C

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Ian Skinner
On 4/12/2010 9:25 AM, Vivec wrote: > How did that happen...:-\ > Freudian slip? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.ho

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Vivec
hmm... that's interesting.I clearly meant to write THREAD hijack...but instead I wrote ThreAT hijack. and I did it twice. How did that happen...:-\ On 12 April 2010 12:22, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > darn and here I was sharpening the knives... > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Vivec wrote

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Larry C. Lyons
darn and here I was sharpening the knives... On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Vivec wrote: > > threat hijack imminent! > > AWGA!! AWGA!!! > Alert! Alert! > > Threat hijack imminent! > > On 12 April 2010 11:39, Jerry Johnson wrote: >> >> Welcome, Kris. >> >> gckschools is a CF site! >>

RE: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Eric Roberts
That explains a lot... Eric -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: >

RE: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Eric Roberts
ROFL... -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 9:57 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report Hey, should we all be honored that Kirk Cameron has made an appearance on our

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Vivec
threat hijack imminent! AWGA!! AWGA!!! Alert! Alert! Threat hijack imminent! On 12 April 2010 11:39, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Welcome, Kris. > > gckschools is a CF site! > > woohoo. > > I also see you are using Moodle. (a php-based lms). how do you like it? I > have been meaning to ins

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Jerry Johnson
Welcome, Kris. gckschools is a CF site! woohoo. I also see you are using Moodle. (a php-based lms). how do you like it? I have been meaning to install it locally and play with it (I spent a decade writing interactive video disk courseware, and lots of cbt, before multimedia was called multimedi

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Vivec
True..and his voice will be heard! :-) Oh dears...I see this getting vociferous. Let's at least try to play nice! Gosh..this list is so great. A real live CREATIONIST!! From Kansas no less! :-) This is stuff I would normally only read about in the news. On 12 April 2010 11:25, Cameron Childres

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Sam wrote: > No need to get ugly. Sorry, I was born with this face. -Cameron ... ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mail

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Sam
No need to get ugly. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox > wrote: >> Hey, should we all be honored that Kirk Cameron has made an appearance >> on our mailing list? > > Kris Sisk is posting from gckschools.com, which

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > Hey, should we all be honored that Kirk Cameron has made an appearance > on our mailing list? Kris Sisk is posting from gckschools.com, which is Garden City Public Schools, Kansas - home of the "earth is only 6,000 years old and Dinosa

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-12 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Hey, should we all be honored that Kirk Cameron has made an appearance on our mailing list? :) On Apr 12, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Evolution has been disproven? You have got to be kidding. Where is the > conflicting evidence? > > > > still waiting... > > As for the ir

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Ray Champagne
You can tell you are a dad to three girls. That was such a dad joke. :) On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I've always loved Norse mythology but I'm still an Athorist. > > > > On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > >

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I've always loved Norse mythology but I'm still an Athorist. On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Greek Mythology was one of my favorite courses I took as a GenEd credit > course in college. Random thought. > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Casey Dougall < > ca...@ub

Re: Evolution, Big Bang Polls Omitted From NSF Report

2010-04-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
and you're right...we didn't evolve from apes.just a common ancestor is all we share with apes. On Apr 9, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > >> I wonder if the results were removed because they were too >> embarrassing? Af