Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ray wrote: > Um, Gruss, don't fool yourself - she picked YOU. Even if you asked her > out that first time, she picked YOU. Don't get fooled by that fact - we Come on man, let me have something. If I didn't lie to myself what would I have? ~

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-05 Thread Ray Champagne
> Ray - he's such an instigator. :) but I picked her... Um, Gruss, don't fool yourself - she picked YOU. Even if you asked her out that first time, she picked YOU. Don't get fooled by that fact - we don't pick anything! They may try and make us *think* that, but you know it just ain't

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > you're stuck on that. He was apparently her most distant caretaker, so > how could he possibly know whether the diagnosis was correct? Ray - he's such an instigator. Anyway, yes I'm stuck on the fact that I think it was his decision right or wrong, diagnosis correct or incorrect.

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-05 Thread Dana
you're stuck on that. He was apparently her most distant caretaker, so how could he possibly know whether the diagnosis was correct? But maybe we are on the crux of the difference between us here. While what was done was in accordance with Florida law, sure, it troubles me that the law presumes a c

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-05 Thread Gruss Gott
> Ray wrote: > Did anyone see the story about the brain damaged fireman who woke up > after 9 years? > > Maybe they shouldn't have let Terry go? > LOL! Great post. Well, my position throughout the Schiavo case was not on the medical merits of the case, but on the legal ones. Since I am for gu

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Nearly 91/2 years after a firefighter was left > brain-damaged and mostly mute during a 1995 roof collapse, he did > something that shocked his doctors: He asked for his wife. It's a local story for me - Orchard Park is in the souttowns of Buffalo. The local news story on

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Howie Hamlin
Or, "Paris Hilton is unclean" --- On Wednesday, May 04, 2005 5:41 PM, Dana scribed: --- > > May I suggest starting a thread entitled "Jessica Simpson and Paris > Hilton are ugly" > > ;P > Dana > ~| Discover CFTicket - The lea

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Dana
May I suggest starting a thread entitled "Jessica Simpson and Paris Hilton are ugly" ;P Dana On 5/4/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah, I don't want to go there again, but I have noticed that I haven't > been getting enough email lately. > > ;) > > > Dana wrote: > > Do we reall

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Ray Champagne
Nah, I don't want to go there again, but I have noticed that I haven't been getting enough email lately. ;) Dana wrote: > Do we really want to go there again? All I know is that my recent > adventures in beta-medicine have taught me that medicine is like > anything else. There is a conventional

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Dana
I seem to remember reading that the doctor that diagnosed TS had previously diagnosed as PVS someone that was able to drive an electric wheelchair, which would, if true, certainly imply some awareness and cognitive function. I say if true because I do not remember the source and there were definite

RE: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Ian Skinner
I heard this on the radio this morning. I believe are dealing with a large difference of degree of brain damage. This fireman was able to sit and would watch television; he just would not communicate with people for seven years. I think there are a bid difference between mute and PVS. ---

Re: For Gruss and Dana - stirring the pot

2005-05-04 Thread Dana
Do we really want to go there again? All I know is that my recent adventures in beta-medicine have taught me that medicine is like anything else. There is a conventional wisdom, which, once you dig, is usually not exactly true. So I am wary of things that everyone agrees are true. To take an exampl