RE: My thoughts on Education

2002-06-03 Thread Kevin Schmidt
S had more revenue. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 7:06 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education Ben, you're preaching to the choir here. I was horrified at the national debt increases that ronnie

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2002-06-02 Thread bbraver
gt;me laugh. Surely none of us here would believe such a blatantly untrue > > >>statement. > > >> > > >> . .and I have a bridge to sell you too ;) > > >> > > >>Nate Nielsen > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >

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2002-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
statement. > >> > >> . .and I have a bridge to sell you too ;) > >> > >>Nate Nielsen > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >>----- Original Message - > >>From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>

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2002-06-02 Thread Ben Braver
;- Original Message - >>From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM >>Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education >> >> >> > Simple comparison, ho

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2002-05-31 Thread Beth Email
> I guess I am one of those "less government" people. =P It seems the > democrats are hell bent on turning america into a communist nation, after > all - if we continue this dangerous democratic spending behavior and unfair > economic based taxing, eventually we will all make the same exact amo

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2002-05-31 Thread Beth Email
socialism can and does work on a small scale. - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > Tenure also allows me

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > One conviction only. How many of the Reagan administration, 29 convictions. > Says something about the administrations doesn&#x

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
hey got caught." > >I hope I'm not offending anyone - trying to keep this little debate thing >totally non-personal (and enjoying it! =P) Please tell me if I step on >anyone's toes - its not my intentions. > >=) > >Nate Nielsen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
statement. > > . .and I have a bridge to sell you too ;) > >Nate Nielsen >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- Original Message - >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
at. > > > > >-Original Message- >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > >Simple comparison, how many investigations were made of the Clinton >admini

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
No intended relation with the horse <--> donkey. lol =P - Original Message - From: "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 6:12 PM Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > At 06:40 PM

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2002-05-31 Thread Maureen
At 06:40 PM 5/31/02, Nate wrote: >Numerous criminal charges (so far) have been brought against the Clinton >Administration and participants. So far the count of convicted charges is >46. I think this makes the first statement you made of the Regan analogy >seriously flawed. Please move this thr

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
ED] - Original Message - From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > Simple comparison, how many investigations were made of the Clinton > adm

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2002-05-31 Thread Jon Hall
riginal Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > Who won the Cold War? > > Who let terror groups build up and the only action that was t

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
"overheads" with missle tech. Chinese military curve accelerating upward on Clinton's watch..He took the money and said I don't care" Nate Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > Simple comparison, how many investigations were made of the Clinton > administration during his two terms in office. Compare that w

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
that. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education Simple comparison, how many investigations were made of the Clinton administration during his two terms in office. Compare that

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry C. Lyons
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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Well said Nate. -Original Message- From: Nate Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education The comment "They were failures in Texas and now he's trying to achieve the same failure nationally.&qu

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
reasonable conversational argument. It's so poor in character, it hardly even a response. bleh.. . heh Nate Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
7;s really not an issue. -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education And how are court ordered mandate be handled? The ones that require ADA compliance etc. Businesses don'

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > > > Since we have brought Bush into the conversation out of left > field - heheh. > I thought I would post this non-biased link of the campaign > comparisons of > Al and George for education. > > http:

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
]] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:30 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > > My opinion is as such: > > Teachers today have more to worry about than just teaching. They worry > whether some child will get it into his head to go in a blow >

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
ED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education Wanted to check some facts so I went to www.ed.gov. Fiscal year 2003's Federal Education budget is $55.8 billion, 2.7% of the total Federal budget. ( Source: http://www.ed.gov/offices/OUS/fedrole.html

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2002-05-31 Thread William H. Bowen
Wanted to check some facts so I went to www.ed.gov. Fiscal year 2003's Federal Education budget is $55.8 billion, 2.7% of the total Federal budget. ( Source: http://www.ed.gov/offices/OUS/fedrole.html ) Total budget is ~$732 billion So the other ~90% comes from the states, correct? Alrighty, he

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:08 PM Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > What do you mean by government. Those programs that I saw that worked > required Government involvement. I object to poo

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2002-05-31 Thread LANCASTER, STEVEN M. (JSC-OL) (BAR)
(voice) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education If there is no difference in terms of academic performance between public and private schooling, then I

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:19 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education If there is no difference in terms of academic performance between public and private schooling, then I go for public schooling its cheaper and more effective to society as a whole. Yo

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
2 3:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > > What I was saying, is parental involvement not the government made the > improvement saw. Just as you see when parents take an active role in > their childs life things usually turn out better.

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
tenure! -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education What do you mean by government. Those programs that I saw that worked required Government involvement. I object to poor

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
--- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education Actually given the post office's mission, it is model of efficiency. About one quarter of the world's mail is moved through the US postal system. One rat

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
t; improve dramatically. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:53 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > There are magnet schools in almost every school district specifically &

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
doesn't > work. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > Nice to think that such works that way. But in general these efforts >

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:53 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education There are magnet schools in almost every school district specifically intended for this purpose. Frequently these magnet schools are far better institutions than most private sc

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education >

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
CF-Community > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > > I don't want just choice. I want to see privatized schools that cater > to those with problems. There were many times that I was held up in a > class because a teacher had to cater to someone else who wasn't

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
31, 2002 1:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education Nice to think that such works that way. But in general these efforts have failed miserably. The per-student cost for special needs kids is far higher than for non disabled children. Most secular or private schools operate fairl

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2002-05-31 Thread Beth F
> Ahh . .. but think of the opportunity of creating specialized schools that > cater specifically to children with those needs. If the need isn't being > met in the marketplace, someone will quickly realize it and jump at the idea > rapidly. Can you say gold mine?!? Those with less competiti

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2002-05-31 Thread Beth F
]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:24 AM Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > Yes the Wonderful world of vouchers, the panacea of all of our educational > woes. Do I hear skimming here? No private school is required to take the > special needs kids that public schools are required t

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education > > > Ahh . .. but think of the opportunity of creating > specialized schools that > cater specifically to children with those needs. If the need > isn't being > met in the marketplace, someone will quickl

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2002-05-31 Thread Bill Wheatley
anced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 - Original Message - From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > I don'

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
1:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education Yes the Wonderful world of vouchers, the panacea of all of our educational woes. Do I hear skimming here? No private school is required to take the special needs kids that public schools are required to do so by law. I would have no problem w

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2002-05-31 Thread Nate Nielsen
order - my work here is done. > -- > > > -Original Message- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:11 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education > > > > > > The wonderf

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2002-05-31 Thread Larry Lyons
out will be a wreck. So at the same > time I think > additional funds would be needed to help them. > > -Original Message- > From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:09 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My thoughts on Educ

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2002-05-31 Thread Beth F
> and we'll start simple, one point at a time (one point at a time offer not > valid in all states or states of mind... ;-) > How do you propose that these "privatized" schools make money, not > necessarily profit mind you, but just meet operating expenses. I think its all of our responsibility

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2002-05-31 Thread Kevin Schmidt
would be needed to help them. -Original Message- From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education Alright, I'll bite... and we'll start simple, one point at a time (one point at a time

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2002-05-31 Thread William H. Bowen
Alright, I'll bite... and we'll start simple, one point at a time (one point at a time offer not valid in all states or states of mind... ;-) How do you propose that these "privatized" schools make money, not necessarily profit mind you, but just meet operating expenses. will William H. Bo