RE: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-22 Thread Jacob
Subject: Re: MySpace and ColdFusion The original thing I was calling out was the influence of the MS discount and misunderstanding of CF at MySpace. But I am not suprised to hear there was poorly written code there, and it is not CF's fault. In fact, I'm starting to wonder now how much we (

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-22 Thread Sam
Isn't the fact that they weren't coders what made MySpace and others like it possible? If everyone had to actually learn a language first many ideas would have been lost. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote: > > The original thing I was calling out was the influence of the MS

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-22 Thread Jeffrey Epstein
The original thing I was calling out was the influence of the MS discount and misunderstanding of CF at MySpace. But I am not suprised to hear there was poorly written code there, and it is not CF's fault. In fact, I'm starting to wonder now how much we (old timers) are responsible for those mi

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Unfortunately I can see that many would look at something like that as the latest salvo in the years long feud between Adobe/Macromedia and New Atlanta. But I agree. The author didn't know programming. Perhaps someone should set her straight. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Scott Stewart wrote

RE: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Scott Stewart
This is exactly the kind of thing that Adobe should meet head on, issuing a statement calling her out on the accuracy of this statement. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Epstein [mailto:jeffr...@pobox.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:17 PM To: cf-community Subject: MySpace and Co

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Ras Tafari
> -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:51 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: MySpace and ColdFusion > > > And MySpace survived for a long time on CF 5 and Fusebox > The problems came in wh

RE: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Jacob
Well.. even on ASP.NET, Myspace still blows. Facebook is a 100 times better, although it has its own quirks -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:51 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: MySpace and ColdFusion And

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
FMX and didn‚t test even remotely > adequately... > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:26 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: MySpace and ColdFusion > > > Jeff, > &

RE: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Scott Stewart
Subject: Re: MySpace and ColdFusion Jeff, We have clear statements from myspace that the problem was more their code and coding practice than anything else. Ask people who were at cfunited what they said. Quick and dirty describes how they coded, not how ColdFusion should be used. -- Michael

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Jeff, We have clear statements from myspace that the problem was more their code and coding practice than anything else. Ask people who were at cfunited what they said. Quick and dirty describes how they coded, not how ColdFusion should be used. -- Michael On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, J

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Jeffrey Epstein wrote: > "At the same time, MySpace was contemplating finally transitioning from > ColdFusion, the programming language it had started with, to the more robust > ASP.NET Microsoft programming language. ColdFusion was a programming > language for q

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I don't think the author knows what they're talking about. I had the opportunity to see the CF code behind mySpace and frankly it was very poorly written (shiite comes to mind). No wonder it didn't scale. Their solution to any problem was to throw more hardware at it, not to fix the problem by wri

Re: MySpace and ColdFusion

2009-12-15 Thread Robert Munn
Julia Angwin ought to try something called research the next time she wants to write a book. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Jeffrey Ep wrote: > > I've always been interested in how and why MySpace changed from ColdFusion > to ASP.NET. I've just seen a new book by Julia Angwin called "Stealing