RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-02 Thread Billy Cox
ated to salvation' which is a very generous position and one that only has to weather attacks from people who think it is *too* generous. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: National Day of

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We learned in school and catechism that it was metaphorical. However, > that doesn't mean it would be considered wrong, I know contradiction. > I agree here. Inerrant doesn't mean it can't be metaphorical. And a cursory glance

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: sam morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > As Jerry already pointed out they have nothing to do with our > government: > >

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Loathe
AIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:29 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! >> >> Jesus is still considered the only path to SALVATION in the catholic >> church. You can seek intercession form Saints and Mary but Christ is >

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:54 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: National Day of Prayer! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thurs

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread sam morris
As Jerry already pointed out they have nothing to do with our government: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Day_of_Prayer The National Day of Prayer Task Force is a non-governmental organization created by the National Prayer Committee to help coordinate events for evangelical Christians o

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 6:29 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > Jesus is still considered the only path to SALVATION in the catholic > church. You can seek intercess

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Loathe
y 01, 2008 3:07 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! >> >> just curious as to why you excluded catholics. Nothing in that >> statement >> precludes participation by a Catholic... except that sheer BS-ness of >> having >> a single

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Still the statement also says "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of > God > and the only One by which > I can obtain salvation and have an ongoing relationship with God." > > Again, this was never my understanding of Cat

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > just curious as to why you excluded catholics. Nothing in that > statement > precludes participat

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Dana
just curious as to why you excluded catholics. Nothing in that statement precludes participation by a Catholic... except that sheer BS-ness of having a single day of prayer in the first place of course... On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 7:20 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently if you're

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 2:25 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > > Specifically the "inerrant" part. > > > > Perhaps I'm wrong but I s

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think it's the primary statement, that the "Holy Bible is the inerrant > Word of The Living God" is where I feel most mainstream Christian faiths > would fail. > > Specifically the "inerrant" part. > > Perhaps I'm wrong

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's been a while but in my brief Catholic education I was taught, > explicitly, that the Bible is NOT the " inerrant Word of The Living God". > > In fact I was taught just the opposite: that the bible was metaphorical.

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread G Money
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's been a while but in my brief Catholic education I was taught, > explicitly, that the Bible is NOT the " inerrant Word of The Living God". > > In fact I was taught just the opposite: that the bible was metaphorical. Yes,

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Billy Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:45 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: National Day of Prayer! > > It isn't such a big deal that fundamentalists require the coordinators > of > *their rec

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:41 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > At any rate, you would not need to be an "Evangelical Christian" to > sign the > above

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 9:33 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > Why not Catholic? Catholics are Christians.? Looks like you just > need to > believe in Chris

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Larry Lyons
They converted a nonsecular event into one that entirely secular - if you do not fit into their particular brand of religious ideology then you need not apply. If I remember correctly the first amendment states: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
> Thanksgiving belongs to the Pilgrims. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:33 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! > > > In that case any government support ought to be withdra

RE: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Billy Cox
- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:33 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: National Day of Prayer! In that case any government support ought to be withdrawn, based on the separation clause. Nice to see that the fundies are as inclusi

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In that case any government support ought to be withdrawn, based on the > separation clause. > I'd agree with that, definately! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 so

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Rick Root
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apparently if you're an evangelical Christian that is. > > Shirley Dobson, the "Chairman of the National Day of Prayer Task Force" > requires that her coordinators sign this declaration: > > "I believe that the Holy Bible is th

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread G Money
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I believe that the Holy Bible is the inerrant Word of The Living God. I > believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the only One by which I > can > obtain salvation and have an ongoing relationship with God. I believe in

Re: National Day of Prayer!

2008-05-01 Thread Larry Lyons
In that case any government support ought to be withdrawn, based on the separation clause. Nice to see that the fundies are as inclusive as ever. >Apparently if you're an evangelical Christian that is. > >Shirley Dobson, the "Chairman of the National Day of Prayer Task Force" >requires that her