Yea.. who was the last president we were proud of? George Washington? :)
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From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Will be nice to have
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Jacob wrote:
Yea.. who was the last president we were proud of? George Washington? :)
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From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 6:10 AM
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yeah but look at Chelsea Clinton, look at Elizabeth Edwards, look at
Jenna Bush and Billy Carter. I don't think the family members can NOT
be public figures at that level of politics. Note that I say this, but
I still think we should let the poor kid alone. I just don't think it
because of libel
Agreed.
Robert Munn wrote:
Props to Obama for his stance.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Vivec wrote:
Let me be as clear as possible, Obama said. I think people's
families are off-limits, and people's children are especially
off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no
That may be true. And I do have to say I feel a bit sorry for the
daughter. It must be tough to be raised evangelical then get pregnant
when you rebel. It must be much much tougher to suddenly be a public
figure because your mom is running for vice president. There is
something to be said for the
Will be nice to have a president once again that we can be proud of, won't
it? :)
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Props to Obama for his stance.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Vivec wrote:
Let me be as clear as possible, Obama said. I think people's
It would be better if he was in a party that didn't have to be told to STFU.
That's a mighty high horse for the guy whose party counts Limbaugh as a member.
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will
If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable.
- Carrie Fisher
You want to compare Limbaugh to Kos, Huffington or moveon?
On 9/2/08, William Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be better if he was in a party that didn't have to be told to STFU.
That's a mighty high horse for the guy whose party counts Limbaugh as a
member.
I know they're there. Certainly not denying that.
just wanted to point out that there's not a lot of wiggle room for the
pot to call the kettle black in this situation.
both sides have a serious STFU problem...
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You want to compare
I disagree. Limbaugh's way above them. I'm sensing some Pearls of
Wisdom on the way:)
On 9/2/08, William Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know they're there. Certainly not denying that.
just wanted to point out that there's not a lot of wiggle room for the
pot to call the kettle black in this
I disagree. Limbaugh's way above them. I'm sensing some Pearls of
Wisdom on the way:)
LOL.
:-)
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will
If my life weren't funny, it would just be true;
and that would just be unacceptable.
- Carrie Fisher
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Adobe®
the daughter is not a public figure, that is the entire point of this
problem. the press is gleefully bashing her and her mother over this
whole thing, and she isn't even a public figure. it's disgusting.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Dana wrote:
That may be true. And I do have to say I feel
I haven't seen ANY bashing of the daughter.not once. Can you provide a
link where a member of the media is bashing on the daughter
On Mom, yes, but the daughter?
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the daughter is not a public figure, that is the
mmm family member of a candidate for vp? I think she is actually.
Think Chelsea. Think Teresa Kerry. Tho I admire Obama for putting her
off limits. In terms of the media though, she *is* a public figure,
though through no choice of her own.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Robert Munn [EMAIL
I actually have not seen much bashing in the media... more on blogs,
some in this thread. It *is* a legitimate story I think. However I
don't thnik it's evidence of Palin's character. I do see a lot of
so-called liberals incensed that that woman is the nominee.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 11:02 AM, G
I actually have not seen much bashing in the media... more on blogs,
some in this thread. It *is* a legitimate story I think. However I
don't thnik it's evidence of Palin's character. I do see a lot of
so-called liberals incensed that that woman is the nominee.
Certainly its curious to hear
When the candidate supports an abstinence only policy and her 17 year
old is pregnant, I don't think there's a way for her daughter not to
become a public figure.
On Sep 2, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
the daughter is not a public figure, that is the entire point of this
problem.
BS. A public figure is someone who puts themselves in the limelight.
She never asked for any of this attention. And yet the MSM is all too
happy to find a scandal to use to rip the poor girl to shreds over.
And yes, they are ripping the girl to shreds. They don't have to
directly say anything
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Robert Munn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BS. A public figure is someone who puts themselves in the limelight.
Like...sayaccepting the nomination for the second highest office in the
country?
She never asked for any of this attention.
Really? See above.
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that is the mother. There is no question that Sarah Palin is a public
figure. I believe here daughter is also, but that is less clear-cut.
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/defamation.html#3
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:24 PM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at
So reading that definition, I don't agree that the daughter is a
public figure. The only way she could be a public figure is as an
involuntary public figure, which is defined as a very rare
circumstance, and where she must have become a central figure in a
significant public controversy.
So what
The controversy would be whether abstinence only education works.
On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
So reading that definition, I don't agree that the daughter is a
public figure. The only way she could be a public figure is as an
involuntary public figure, which is defined as
Let's consider one other question. Palin could have avoided all of
this controversy by encouraging her daughter to have an abortion. No
baby, no story. Of course, that flies in the face of everything she
believes in, and she didn't do that, nor would she.
So would it have been better for her to
When is the last time there was a story about this issue anywhere in
the national media? Anyone?
The story is being ginned up specifically in order to attack Palin,
not because there is any significant controversy around the actual
subject.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Zaphod wrote:
The
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
When is the last time there was a story about this issue anywhere in
the national media? Anyone?
I could dig up several of my posts that talk about it, but who really
reads all that stuff anyways.
What bugged me was exporting that mentality to
We need privacy spheres ala stranger in a strange land?
Robert Munn wrote:
the daughter is not a public figure, that is the entire point of this
problem. the press is gleefully bashing her and her mother over this
whole thing, and she isn't even a public figure. it's disgusting.
On Tue, Sep
lol, no, i just don't think it's right to go bashing the children of a
candidate because it is politically useful.
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Loathe wrote:
We need privacy spheres ala stranger in a strange land?
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Adobe®
Where's the Examination of Biden?
Sarah Palin gets a uterus exam, while Biden skates.
It seems to me, folks, like the liberals cannot handle an
independent, strong, attractive, self-made lady.
McCain knew about the pregnancy, but they just didn't see the family
issue as a deal breaker -- same
B is Be faithful
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:16 PM, denstar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wait, maybe I said the wrong acronym. Abstinence, B-something about
few partners and Contraceptive.
I was lamenting the teaching of only the A part, and saying that the
proof is in the pudding, and B+C are
That'll work.
Gracias, Jerry!
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If you never ask yourself any questions about the meaning of a
passage, you cannot expect the book to give you any insight you do not
already possess.
Mortimer Adler
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote:
B is Be faithful
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008
Props to Obama for his stance.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Vivec wrote:
Let me be as clear as possible, Obama said. I think people's
families are off-limits, and people's children are especially
off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no
relevance to Gov. Palin's
Good for him! He just earned a cool point.
Vivec wrote:
Let me be as clear as possible, Obama said. I think people's
families are off-limits, and people's children are especially
off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no
relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor
He earned good sportsmanship award, from me.
HOWEVER, I do think that the character of our elected leadership is
something that pertains to me - if they are going to represent me to the
world, then their character is important to me and I should hold them to
a higher standard than i hold the
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