Symantics
On 1/31/06, Tony wrote:
> by not helping you are not supporting. your are conscienciously objecting.
> i think there is a difference.
>
> cant we step back and let the adults over there be adults?
>
> tw
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what does a software company have to do with it?
On 1/31/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Symantics
>
> On 1/31/06, Tony wrote:
> > by not helping you are not supporting. your are conscienciously objecting.
> > i think there is a difference.
> >
> > cant we step back and let the adults over t
semantics?
or virus protection?
:) tw
On 1/31/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Symantics
>
> On 1/31/06, Tony wrote:
> > by not helping you are not supporting. your are conscienciously objecting.
> > i think there is a difference.
> >
> > cant we step back and let the adults over there be a
by not helping you are not supporting. your are conscienciously objecting.
i think there is a difference.
cant we step back and let the adults over there be adults?
tw
On 1/31/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They are our ally.
> They are not the aggressor; they are a peaceful nation being
> When you're the world's only superpower, its expected. Besides, the US
> has sort of put itself in that role over the last 8 years.
Try more like the last 56 years or so... at least since WWII.
(source: http://www.historyguy.com/american_military_history.html)
The Korean War - 1950-1953
Vietnam
They are our ally.
They are not the aggressor; they are a peaceful nation being attacked
by terrorist nations.
Who should we support? By not helping Israel we would be helping
terrorist nations mainly Hammas, Syria and Iran.
On 1/31/06, Tony wrote:
> so do a lot of other oppressed people in the w
When you're the world's only superpower, its expected. Besides, the US
has sort of put itself in that role over the last 8 years.
larry
On 1/31/06, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i do not disagree. just wondering why we are always "That guy"
> do we have anyone that backs us with israel? nat
i do not disagree. just wondering why we are always "That guy"
do we have anyone that backs us with israel? nato i guess? the eu maybe?
tw
On 1/31/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No. I don't like the idea of the US as the world police.
>
> But in Israel, you had a country that, hours after
No. I don't like the idea of the US as the world police.
But in Israel, you had a country that, hours after it's inception, had war
declared on it by a host of other countries. These countries had an
expressed aim from the get-go: destroy that new country called Israel.
As a world power, a prom
so do a lot of other oppressed people in the world.
must we be the world police?
just wondering. again, im all for helping people in need.
but why us?
tony
On 1/31/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > why should we back them?
> >
> > not that i am against it, but i do not know why we should?
> >
> why should we back them?
>
> not that i am against it, but i do not know why we should?
>
> tony
>
Because they have a right to exist.
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Micheal, you do not know what you're talking about. Canada is claiming
its arctic islands, which historically and practically are Canadian
jurisdiction.
The thing is that most countries do recognize the claim. The US and
Russia may have some problems with the free passage of their nuclear
subs if
It's no where near a clear case especially as the arctic is so large and for
ANY country to claim it as 'theirs' is a stretch.
"We don't recognize Canada's claims to those waters. Most other countries do
not recognize their claim. We have agreed to disagree."
> nope but
>
> http://www.halifaxl
nope but
http://www.halifaxlive.com/content/view/462/2/
>we arent sending suicide fucknuts up to ottowa for a cup a joe and a blast!
>
>i think that is the difference.
>
>tw
>
>On 1/30/06, So Kenfused <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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they do that here too ;)
> You know what I don't get? And this is probably a bit trivial to the
> large argument. On the news today, they showed them celebrating by
> shooting guns in the sky - yet doesn't that kill people? I mean, I'm
> sure it's fun to shoot a gun, but hasn't someone told them t
I'll second that.
>Because they have been the only truly productive and democratically elected
>government in the middle east.
>
>Because many of Israel citizens are also Americans.
>
>Because their culture is very close ours, as opposed to the rest of the
>middle east.
>
>Because we have treaties
Meh. While it would be cool (no pun intended), I think it would be too much
trouble. We already have the nukes. Who cares about the fallout? The
world would finaly have a convenient place to store all of its neclear
waste. Hmmm. Would probably have to build a wall though. You know, to
keep
Don't nuke them form orbit. Construct a giant mass accellerator and hit them
with a 1000 ton block of super cooled ice. Same basic result, almost no
fallout.
>I say we take off and nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
>
>PT
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>Nuking from orbit, for a better tomorrow.
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being another country that has the "special relationship" that
we have with England.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 4:40 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Palestinians *sigh*
>
> why should w
why should we back them?
not that i am against it, but i do not know why we should?
tony
On 1/30/06, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like you're really pissed that the US backs Israel.
>
> On 1/30/06, So Kenfused wrote:
> >
> > Israel gains the support of the USA, hence the UK and a doze
Sounds like you're really pissed that the US backs Israel.
On 1/30/06, So Kenfused wrote:
>
> Israel gains the support of the USA, hence the UK and a dozen
> other countries unwilling to say no (see list of USA Allies in Iraq, reduce
> number by about 50% give or take 10%)
>
~
Israel has the moral high ground already. They abandoned Gaza. They promoted a
two-state solution. They agreed to let the PLO back into the territories in the
first place.
>I honestly think Israel should take the moral high ground... and wait for
>them to give a good "official" reason to bomb t
Germany sit on the sidelines. I don't think so, especially if the US
can make it a NATO effort. However the problem is with Germany's
history. Its only been in the last couple of years that the budensweir
has been given permission to operate outside of the normal NATO sphere
of operations. At the l
i think it would get ugly. i think that smart countries would like to see
the two factions (israel + palestinians) sort it out... all the while
threatening
iran with a retaliation unlike it has ever seen if it jumps in the
water... and then if
it does, look out. who knows where it would go from t
I doubt there is any way that the Isreal-Palestine issue can become wwIII.
A local war, sure. Even a nuclear local war. But I don't seemore than 4 or 5
countries getting involved when/if that happens.
Let's see.
Palestine vs. Israel
Israel gains the support of the USA, hence the UK and a dozen
und
Scott A. Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Palestinians *sigh*
what could we do at that point? excep
what could we do at that point? except wait for the fallout, sanction the shit
outta them, have the world REALLY at our backs, and clean house over there.
letting them ruin themselves the whole time.
it will suck for millions of people in the general area, and the
fallout zone, but
what else might
I say we take off and nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
PT
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ael, in "defense" of Palestine. And we're stretched
to thin to do a damn thing about it.
Scott A. Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
GNSI
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Rockville, MD 20852
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From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
On 1/30/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) Hamas is now the official government of Palestine, which means they be
> bogged down with municipal items (trash, sewers, schools, jobs etc) this
> will take away much of the time and planning for terrorist actions
that's if they TRULY plan
On 1/30/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was listening to talk radio the other night and someone brought up a
> couple of good points.
>
> 1) Hamas is now the official government of Palestine, which means they be
> bogged down with municipal items (trash, sewers, schools, jobs etc)
I doubt there is any way that the Isreal-Palestine issue can become
wwIII. A local war, sure. Even a nuclear local war. But I don't see
more than 4 or 5 countries getting involved when/if that happens.
You also forgot option three.
3) The attacks will now be carried out by a group called "we are
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From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 1:02 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Palestinians *sigh*
I don't think it's a good thing at all, merely a useful thing in that it
clarifies the situation. It sucks for the Palestinians, but th
I don't think it's a good thing at all, merely a useful thing in that it
clarifies the situation. It sucks for the Palestinians, but there is very
little Israel or the U.S. can do until they sort out their internal problems.
> It's not a good thing for those palestinians that did not side with
Back here in the good old USA our favorite team wins the championship and
we burn cars, loot stores, riot and go about initiating general chaos.
Is it all Americans? NO
Is it all Palestinians? NO
Americans want sensationalism not journalism. Our press gives us what
sells. How much of this typ
I think it is truly wonderful that Hamas won. Not a joint win, but a full win.
Now the world can not say that they are supporting the 'good' parts of the
Palestinian government as Hamas IS the Palestinian government. Now we see what
a dick Carter is. Now the newspapers (with a few exceptions) ha
we arent sending suicide fucknuts up to ottowa for a cup a joe and a blast!
i think that is the difference.
tw
On 1/30/06, So Kenfused <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And what about those Americans who voted Bush into office not once but
> twice? WTF is a matter with these people? Some would say
And what about those Americans who voted Bush into office not once but
twice? WTF is a matter with these people? Some would say he isn't much
different than a terrorist. A pre-emptive war? based on questionable
intelligence at best? No WMD?
So palestinians elect a terrorist organization to a m
Aye, my sympathies go out to both Palestine and Israel. This looks
like it's going to get messy.
On 1/27/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not a good thing for those palestinians that did not side with
> the terrorists and longed for better things, however.
~
It's not a good thing for those palestinians that did not side with
the terrorists and longed for better things, however.
On 1/27/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They are in the thrall of a horrendous, self-defeating strategy- they are
> effectively a death-cult society bent on the d
They are in the thrall of a horrendous, self-defeating strategy- they are
effectively a death-cult society bent on the destruction of Israel. That
doesn't mean everyone is enthralled by the ideals of this movement, but it
sounds awfully familiar to what happened in Germany in 1933. Similar
cond
Because they're suicide murderers
On 1/27/06, Vivec wrote:
> One interesting fact if truly trying to understand might be:
> "Suicide Bombers do not consider themselves to be suicide bombers".
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I was close
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17711603%255E23109,00.html
90 killed in NYE celebrations
>From correspondents in San Salvador
January 02, 2006
AT least 90 people were killed in Latin America in road, fireworks and
other accidents during New Year's celebra
I think the thing is, that if they were given a psychiatric evaluation
maybe a high percentage of these people would not be found to be 100%
mentally stable or fit. This happens a lot in depressed individuals.
Is it possible through environment to have hundreds of members of a
particular population
I don't know!!
I don't understand them either!
I haven't lived my life thinking everything was hopeless and that I
was subjugated and oppressed! I've been at points in my life where I
can compare, and therefore I can say that if my feelings were to run
even deeper than those depressed points, and
However it also means that in case of bullets shot into the air they come down
with only gravitational velocity.
And this velocity would equal the velocity at which the bullet left the barrel
of the gun (assuming a vacuum here for the moment). Gravity is going to apply
a steady force to star
Because your answer was that "i don't understand them".
That's not an answer! Explain them too meso I can understand why they
are acting like a bunch of thugs :)
> Unless of course your crime was putting words in my mouth, then you
> would be guilty as charged ;-)
>
> Understanding behaviour
Actually, the winners did the same in places, and there were more than
a few beatings of the losers by gangs of the winners.
Overall, not a place that stresses good sportsmanship or manners.
On 1/27/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So palestinians elect a terrorist organization to a majority, a
The straight dope:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a950414b.html
I like the quote at the end "So, Middle Eastern men, gang bangers,
etc., listen up! It has been scientifically shown that firing guns
into the air for entertainment is not a good idea. Please stop right
away. Also knock off wit
Unless of course your crime was putting words in my mouth, then you
would be guilty as charged ;-)
Understanding behaviour, or seeking to understand, does not in any way
justify such behaviour.
You asked a question , what the f**k is wrong with them.Why ask the
question if you did not want an ans
> On 1/27/06, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You know what I don't get? And this is probably a bit trivial to the
> > large argument. On the news today, they showed them celebrating by
> > shooting guns in the sky - yet doesn't that kill people? I mean, I'm
> > sure it's fun to shoot
On 1/27/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G wrote:
> > So palestinians elect a terrorist organization to a majority, and the
> > losers show their frustrations by rioting and setting things on fire.
> >
> > What the f**k is a matter with these people?
>
> Sounds like they lost the Superbow
Yeah, it's bad shit. I was at a New Year's celebration in Detroit and
people were doing this and every year apparently a couple people die
or are injured there from it. That year all things a baby's head was
where the bullet came back down and of course that put everyone in a
tizzy.
On 1/27/06, Ra
Don't they lose hundreds of Mexicans each year because of that?
On 1/27/06, Raymond Camden wrote:
> shooting guns in the sky - yet doesn't that kill people? I mean, I'm
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Ah yes...I knew I could count on you to somehow justify this behavior, to
shift blame, to say something like "you just don't understand them".
If i'm ever accused of anything, everI hope you are the judge in my
casebecause no matter what I would have done, I wouldn't be guilty for
it.
G wrote:
> So palestinians elect a terrorist organization to a majority, and the losers
> show their frustrations by rioting and setting things on fire.
>
> What the f**k is a matter with these people?
Sounds like they lost the Superbowl. Or won.
--Ben
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Probably the same thing that was wrong with some residents of New
Orleans. Or some residents of France more recently.
Some will never understand the mindset of an individual who thinks
they have been oppressed and subjugated and who believes their entire
existence is without hope.
On 1/27/06, G <
You know what I don't get? And this is probably a bit trivial to the
large argument. On the news today, they showed them celebrating by
shooting guns in the sky - yet doesn't that kill people? I mean, I'm
sure it's fun to shoot a gun, but hasn't someone told them they could
kill innocent people lik
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