Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...)

2001-12-20 Thread Nick McClure
t;To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:04 PM >Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > > Surely that is essentially christian? Like saying Church of England? > > > > > > AUG! >

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2001-12-20 Thread Benjamin Falloon
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:04 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > Surely that is essentially christian? Like saying Church of England? > > > > AUG! > > NO. not like that at all > > there is no ch

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2001-12-20 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP
> > Surely that is essentially christian? Like saying Church of England? > > AUG! > NO. not like that at all > there is no church of the US because its unconstitutional Just a bit of history here - the Church of England was created by Henry the Eigth so that he could divorce one of his wives - th

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
Maureen, from here, it looks very south. ;-) > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:19 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > Kansas...not a so

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2001-12-19 Thread Benjamin Falloon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_417000/417996.stm About Kansas legislation Benjamin - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was:

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2001-12-19 Thread howard
Kansas passed a law ... but I'm not sure of the status of it. H. -Original Message- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 11:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Is it correct that there are

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2001-12-19 Thread Nick McClure
http://www.pacel.com >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. >-- > > > -Original Message- > > From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:34 PM > > To: CF-Community > >

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2001-12-19 Thread Nick McClure
I don't think there is pressure. But if a candidate was openly not religious or followed a non -Christian religion he would probably not get far. At 07:39 PM 12/19/2001 +, you wrote: >OK. So there is a pressure on the president to behave in a 'christian' way, >whether or not those are his be

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2001-12-19 Thread Maureen
Kansas...not a southern state. Someone who suggested that here in Georgia would be laughed all the way to the state line. At 02:46 PM 12/19/01, you wrote: >i know its been a hot topic in the south - folks dont' want their kids >taught this, but i don't think its at the state level but at the s

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2001-12-19 Thread Jerry Johnson
(703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:42 PM > To: CF

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2001-12-19 Thread Larry Lyons
://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understa

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2001-12-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
-Original Message- > From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > I wish > > no will, the religious right is too hung up on folks

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
cool. thats what I thought. I suppose there is pressure here too for the prime minister to be. will -Original Message- From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 19:44 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) there is pre

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2001-12-19 Thread corrigan
Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Is it correct that there are certain US state(s) where the Theory of Evolution cannot be taught at school? Or is that another popular misconception? will -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
10:42 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > Is it correct that there are certain US state(s) where the Theory of > Evolution cannot be taught at school? Or is that another popular > misconception? > > will > > -Or

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
there is pressure for the president to be religious himself. > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:40 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > OK.

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
- > From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > I wish > > no will, the religious right is too hung up on folks needing to be > religous >

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
:34 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) I wish no will, the religious right is too hung up on folks needing to be religous in order to be moral for that to have happened. > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > S

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2001-12-19 Thread Larry Lyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > I wish > > no will, the religious right is too hung up on folks needing to be > religous > in or

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
CTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 19:32 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) AUG! NO. not like that at all there is no church of the US because its unconstitutional > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, D

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
- the majority of folks are christian, just different types. > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:29 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > At 08

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
t; Sent: 18 December 2001 21:53 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > WHAT? > > no the president doesn't have to be a christian - that violates our > countries freedom of religion rights. > > I don't t

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2001-12-19 Thread Fleischer, Beth
AUG! NO. not like that at all there is no church of the US because its unconstitutional > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:01 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never unders

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
Cheers Erika :) Hows it going? will -Original Message- From: Erika L Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 17:11 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) >>|From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>| >>|Can a

Religion (was RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...))

2001-12-19 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yes, but how many of them are Neo-pagans? It all goes back to definition. Lets take what I have seen as the average Neo-Pagan: A female who is from a Jewish family who has little or no religious background and is looking for something spiritual but doesn't want what her parents rejected. I'd h

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2001-12-19 Thread corrigan
s on Sunday because it's such a positive and uplifting vibe. Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: RE:

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2001-12-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Hence the reason I posted the second link... it includes Neo-Pagan (which is based on a census from CoG) Hatton > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 9:42 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (

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2001-12-19 Thread Maureen
At 08:43 AM 12/19/01, you wrote: >Just for grins, here's another version with more interesting results > >http://www.adherents.com/adh_dem.html from the site: Neo-pagan (incl. Wiccans) 768,400 Heck, there are that many just on alt.pagans arguing about what pagan means. _

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2001-12-19 Thread Maureen
At 08:43 AM 12/19/01, you wrote: > > I think the majority religion in the US is none. > >I did a search with Ask.com just for grins and came across this page: > >http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#People > >"Religions: Protestant 56%, Roman Catholic 28%, Jewish 2%, other 4%

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2001-12-19 Thread Nick McClure
While the constitution states the government cannot put a religious test on candidates, the people voting still can. At 09:42 AM 12/19/2001 +, you wrote: >Thanks Howard, I think that answered my question very effectively. In >essence then, the constitution specifies that there should be NO r

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2001-12-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I think the majority religion in the US is none. I did a search with Ask.com just for grins and came across this page: http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#People "Religions: Protestant 56%, Roman Catholic 28%, Jewish 2%, other 4%, none 10% (1989)" It's interesting to n

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2001-12-19 Thread Maureen
At 08:14 AM 12/19/01, you wrote: >Constitutionally I think the point has been made that there is to be no >religious requirement. However, I think the point should also be made that >you get votes from people that you appeal to, and since Christianity is the >majority religion in the US, that's w

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2001-12-19 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
some attention needs to be paid. Hatton > -Original Message- > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 12:57 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > At 11:27 AM 12/18/01, you wrot

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
Great. Thanks for the link Maureen, very useful. will -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 05:57 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) At 11:27 AM 12/18/01, you wrote: >Can an American citizen (not

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 December 2001 03:35 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) I'm surprised nobody mentioned this bit of the Constitution: Article Six, Section 3: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and

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2001-12-19 Thread Will Swain
Just a question. :) Has there been an actively non-religious president, or perhaps that is a contradiction? will -Original Message- From: Fleischer, Beth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 21:53 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...)

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2001-12-18 Thread Maureen
At 11:27 AM 12/18/01, you wrote: >Can an American citizen (not you yet Phil) confirm that the President MUST >be a Christian (i.e. is it a part of the constitution)? Has the US ever had >a non-Christian president? > >Cheers > >Will The only requirements to be president is that you must have been

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
I'm surprised nobody mentioned this bit of the Constitution: Article Six, Section 3: "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several State legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Some other differences are the issuing of sacraments like when the Eucharist is said at a mass, the communion bread is meant to be infused (wrong word but can't think of the proper one ) with the Holy Spirit and becomes t

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Gnosticism was around in B.C. so it can't be derived from Catholicism. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06592a.htm As far as I know, Martin Luther was the very first Protestant and later on the Church of England was f

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2001-12-18 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
ssage- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 22:01 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) At 09:57 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: >Michael, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't another major difference is >that Catholism

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2001-12-18 Thread Maureen
At 09:57 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: >Michael, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't another major difference is that >Catholism teaches that salvation is a combination of faith and good works -- >you must do good works to get into heaven? Whereas protestants believe that >you are saved by faith alone? >

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
same Church. H. -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:58 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Or is Christianity and Episcopalian both forms of Catholicism? Honest... which did come first?

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:50 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Right, but they worship Christ, thereby making them Christians. How they worship and their interpretation of the Bible is wha

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2001-12-18 Thread howard
me to that. H. -Original Message- From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > Can an American citizen (not you yet Phil) confirm that the > President MUS

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2001-12-18 Thread Fleischer, Beth
Vinny DiDonato [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > Not that I'm really religious, but I was raised Roman Catholic and never > considered myself Christia

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2001-12-18 Thread Fleischer, Beth
well...by my principals it IS wrong. Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the bigger good. > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:50 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never und

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2001-12-18 Thread Fleischer, Beth
ginal Message- > From: Nick McClure [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:40 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > You are correct. But the fact that it separated a group and counted them > as &g

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2001-12-18 Thread Fleischer, Beth
roman catholics ARE christians. > -Original Message- > From: Will Swain [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:46 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > nopenot joking, just asking a q

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2001-12-18 Thread Fleischer, Beth
er 18, 2001 7:28 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > Can an American citizen (not you yet Phil) confirm that the President MUST > be a Christian (i.e. is it a part of the constitution)? Has the US ever > had > a n

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2001-12-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
It would have been racist if they counted as less than a person because of race. They were actually counted as less than a person because they were slaves, or owned by other people. Not a good reason, I know, but less race-based at that time than economic and social. People of many races wer

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
My understanding is that all who believe in Jesus are Christians and can be sub-divided into various groups including Catholics, Protestants, etc. Great, we've got a tree structure of Christianity. Next we'll be debating if it should go into an array, a structure or stored as XML.

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2001-12-18 Thread Maureen
At 12:58 PM 12/18/01, Jacob wrote: >Or is Christianity and Episcopalian both forms of Catholicism? Honest... >which did come first? Christianity is by definition the worship of Christ, which predated all the churches, sects, and denominations established by the followers of Jesus and his disci

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
:) At 02:24 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: >What? All catholics are Christian... > >Howie > >- Original Message - >From: "Vinny DiDonato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:16 P

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
"You are CORRECT, Ma'am!!!" Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 - Original Message - From: Maureen To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'

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2001-12-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
What? All catholics are Christian... Howie - Original Message - From: "Vinny DiDonato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) >

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2001-12-18 Thread Vinny DiDonato
Not that I'm really religious, but I was raised Roman Catholic and never considered myself Christian. -V -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...)

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2001-12-18 Thread Maureen
At 11:53 AM 12/18/01, Philip Arnold wrote: >Thinking about that brought something to mind > >A few years back when Satanic Verses came out, there was a load of >shouting about it being Blasphemy... The British definition of blasphemy >is 'any contemptuous, reviling, scurrilous or ludicrous matter

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2001-12-18 Thread Maureen
At 11:38 AM 12/18/01, Nathan wrote: >Are you Joking? > >How about John F. Kennedy? Religion: Roman Catholic I'm fairly certain that Catholics consider themselves to be Christian. __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
ber 18, 2001 1:59 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > ok, I quit, you win. I'm not going to keep this up. It's > going into a dark > > place where nothing should go. > (I had to get a parting shot). :) > &

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
930 >fax: (703) 393-2659 >Web: http://www.ebstor.com >http://www.pacel.com >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. >-- > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:53 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > Actually, in that case you'd be speaking with your head up a > horses @**. ;) > > At 01:51 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: > >In this case we&#

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
gt; -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:49 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > > As I don't want a dead CF

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
2001 12:49 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) The concept of giving, taking, preferring, or denying anyone ANYTHING based on race is by definition a 'racist practice'. But does that also mean it's wrong? Marcus > You are correct. But the f

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:49 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I

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2001-12-18 Thread Marcus
The concept of giving, taking, preferring, or denying anyone ANYTHING based on race is by definition a 'racist practice'. But does that also mean it's wrong? Marcus > You are correct. But the fact that it separated a group and > counted them as > less than a person is a racist practice, I think

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
42-5211 x-134 > - Original Message - > From: Larry Lyons > To: CF-Community > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:44 PM > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > I guess its one of those things you have to stand up for. > &g

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:47 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) &

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > Than its probably better that you don't take it lying down. :) > > At 01:34 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: > >that's a pretty sh**ty joke Michael. > > > >l

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:40 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:37 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > Gnosticism was around in B.C. so it can't be derived from Catholicism. > > http://www.newadvent.org

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2001-12-18 Thread Nick McClure
You are correct. But the fact that it separated a group and counted them as less than a person is a racist practice, I think. At 12:32 PM 12/18/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >From what I recall from that is that it wasn't based on Racism but the >opposite. It was one way for the North to prevent the

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
sage- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:31 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > > It is, just not the muffins your expecting. ;) > > &g

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2001-12-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
:-) Howie - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > Actually, you have gnosticism wy back in the

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2001-12-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > >From what I recall from that is that it wasn't based on Racism but the > opposite. It was one way for the North to prevent the South from having > a disproportionate number of representativ

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understan

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
o: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Correct, There have Christians, and a few Deists, and some that claim no affiliation. One things the Constitution does say that leaned to racist side was the way the c

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:28 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > > Let loose the horsies of war!!! > > > > At 01:25 PM 12/18/01, yo

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never underst

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2001-12-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > What's the difference between a lay reader and a chaplain? > > At 01:21 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: > >Actually, the military recognizes Wicca, Nativ

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:23 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > > What's the difference between a lay reader and a chaplai

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
LOL!!! That was very funny!! Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 - Original Message - From: Larry Lyons To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never under

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2001-12-18 Thread Nick McClure
Correct, There have Christians, and a few Deists, and some that claim no affiliation. One things the Constitution does say that leaned to racist side was the way the census was counted. It was called the three-fifths compromise. The south wanted their slaves counted when it came to proportion

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
ndora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 - Original Message - From: C. Hatton Humphrey To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) Actually, the military recognizes Wicca, Nativ

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
ciates > >716-839-2141 x336 > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:03 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: R

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
gt; > > > www.endoradigital.com > > > > 630/942-5211 x-134 > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Todd > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:14 AM > > > > Subject: Re: R

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2001-12-18 Thread Larry Lyons
Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > Catholicism was first. Then, Martin Luther started the first > "Protestant" church in Germany (called Protesta

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
been misdated to the 1st rather than todays date). At 01:12 PM 12/18/01, you wrote: >oh you do Michael, you just haven't met me yet!! > >;) > >will > >-Original Message- >From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 18 December 2001 18:08 >To: C

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2001-12-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
& Associates 716-839-2141 x336 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > And wic

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
I have no idea why I remember this, but I remember a "Family Ties" episode where something happened to, I think, Alex's little sister and she was in the hospital and she might die. I guess Alex had something to do with it so, feeling guilty, he went to the hospital chapel to pray. While he w

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
the 4 that you mentioned. Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 - Original Message - From: C. Hatton Humphrey To: CF-Community Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never

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2001-12-18 Thread Will Swain
oh you do Michael, you just haven't met me yet!! ;) will -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2001 18:08 To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) True, but its not in America. And while I kn

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2001-12-18 Thread Will Swain
tist, Protestant, Lutheran, Methodist, >Etc. > >Michael Corrigan >Programmer >Endora Digital Solutions >www.endoradigital.com >630/942-5211 x-134 > - Original Message - > From: Nathan Stanford > To: CF-Community > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
8/01, you wrote: >Jedi is also a recognized religion in Britain - doh... > >- Original Message - >From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:02 PM >Subject: RE:

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2001-12-18 Thread corrigan
CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > Right, but they worship Christ, thereby making them Christians. How > they worship and their interpretation of the Bible is what di

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2001-12-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
Jedi is also a recognized religion in Britain - doh... - Original Message - From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: RE: Racism (was: I'll never underst

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:58 PM >Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > Or is Christianity and Episcopalian both forms of Catholicism? Honest... > > which did come first? > > > > ___

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2001-12-18 Thread Jacob
on and the Pope, in >particular). So, the first Protestants were Luhterans. > >Howie > >- Original Message - >From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:58 PM >Subj

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2001-12-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
2141 x336 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:50 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > > > > > >

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2001-12-18 Thread Howie Hamlin
al Message - From: "Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Racism (was: I'll never understand...) > Or is Christianity and Episcopalian both forms

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