Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-17 Thread Sam
On 5/17/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Don't forget, the goal of conservatism is to educate/help everyone so > > we don't have to support him or her in the long run. It's an > > investment. > > > > Uh, no. Conservatives want a small federal gov't which means that an

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Don't forget, the goal of conservatism is to educate/help everyone so > we don't have to support him or her in the long run. It's an > investment. > Uh, no. Conservatives want a small federal gov't which means that any federal program is NOT conservative. And why couldn't we leave

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-17 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I don't know where you got that from but it doesn't help today because > public education is already in place. Dismantling the current system > and forcing everyone to pay-to-go doesn't sound conservative at all. > Don't forget, the goal of conservatism is to educate/help everyone so

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
I don't know where you got that from but it doesn't help today because public education is already in place. Dismantling the current system and forcing everyone to pay-to-go doesn't sound conservative at all. Don't forget, the goal of conservatism is to educate/help everyone so we don't have to sup

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
, 2007 11:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > BS. Fixing a problem, > > HA! Dude you are SUCH a fiscal liberal. You sound like Dukakis! That's actually quite an honor be

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > BS. Fixing a problem, > > HA! Dude you are SUCH a fiscal liberal. You sound like Dukakis! That's actually quite an honor because I know you begged mommy and daddy to vote for him. > Psst! > > Fiscal conservatives believe in l

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > BS. Fixing a problem, HA! Dude you are SUCH a fiscal liberal. You sound like Dukakis! Psst! Fiscal conservatives believe in letting the market fix social problems by creating policy that incents people to work for a living. ~

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Dana
he's a whatever the Bushies say kind of guy. He just came out firmly against a government of law On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tBone wrote: > > So you really are a neo-con then. > > > > Yeah, Sam, where is it you stand? You claim to have your butt firmly > planted on t

RE: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
We disagree on Iraq and Afghanistan. However for the most part I am really an isolationist. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:14 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight) What about his foreign

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But you are open minded along with about 3% of the population. Can you imagine if Bush, Clinton or any other president made the exact same speeches, had the exact same stance on all of the issues, etc... but belonged to a party other than the big two. Do you think any of them would have been e

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
What about his foreign policy? On 5/16/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He sure does. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfus

RE: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
I honestly wouldn't care if her were a member of the communist party if he voted along these lines. -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight) But

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Russel Madere
I don't trust any member of either major party. > > But he is a member of one of the two major parties. That gives him > a major black eye in > > my book. > > All those libertarian leanings and you're making party affiliation > your wedge issue? > > hrmmm... > > -- > will > > "If my life

RE: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
He sure does. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:55 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight) I think common sense will be my "wedge issue". Got Common Sense? >> Bu

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think common sense will be my "wedge issue". Got Common Sense? >> But he is a member of one of the two major parties. That gives him a major >> black eye in >> my book. >> > > All those libertarian leanings and you're making party affiliation > your wedge issue? > > hrmmm... > >

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread William Bowen
> But he is a member of one of the two major parties. That gives him a major > black eye in > my book. All those libertarian leanings and you're making party affiliation your wedge issue? hrmmm... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable."

Re: Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Russel Madere
But he is a member of one of the two major parties. That gives him a major black eye in my book. >I would strongly encourage anyone who supports Paul to consider donating >something to his campaign... > >https://www.ronpaul2008.com/forms/contribute.cfm >He has never voted to raise taxes. >He has

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > I'm what you call a free thinker and I'm not bound to a parties rules. > > > > Then you're not a Republican and, from your answers, you're not > conservative. E.g., > > (1.) "I am willing to make investments in social programs li

Ron Paul was(RE: Republican Debate Tonight)

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
I would strongly encourage anyone who supports Paul to consider donating something to his campaign... https://www.ronpaul2008.com/forms/contribute.cfm He has never voted to raise taxes. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership. He h

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > I'm what you call a free thinker and I'm not bound to a parties rules. > Then you're not a Republican and, from your answers, you're not conservative. E.g., (1.) "I am willing to make investments in social programs like NCLB, if they work" * That's fiscally liberal. (2.) "I agree

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeah, Sam, where is it you stand? You claim to have your butt firmly > planted on the conservative stool, but you don't agree with any of the > legs: I never claimed that. I said I was part liberal from the beginning. > (1.) Fiscal Conservative

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
Yep On 5/16/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you really are a neo-con then. ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> tBone wrote: > So you really are a neo-con then. > Yeah, Sam, where is it you stand? You claim to have your butt firmly planted on the conservative stool, but you don't agree with any of the legs: (1.) Fiscal Conservatives. We established a long time ago that you're a fiscal liberal. (2.) So

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
-Community Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight Paul was also against going to Afghanistan. On 5/16/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Afghanistan? > ~| ColdFusion MX7 and Flex 2 Build sales & marketing

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
So you really are a neo-con then. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight I like what he did for NY. No BS and afraid of nobody. Clean out a lot of the mob strongholds, cleaned

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
Paul was also against going to Afghanistan. On 5/16/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Afghanistan? > ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.a

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
I like what he did for NY. No BS and afraid of nobody. Clean out a lot of the mob strongholds, cleaned up the crime, the streets the subways. Brought back tourism and turned around the economy. I also agree with his social issues, abortion, gay civil unions, not sure about guns though. On 5/16/0

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Sam
You're like el Jazeera, have you no shame. They want to rule the world. Wake up! On 5/16/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Paul pretty much said it was our fault for 9/11 because we're stinking > > our noses in the Mid-East. > > That's not a opinion, but a fact. Bin La

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
Afghanistan? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:41 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight > Sam wrote: > Paul pretty much said it was our fault for 9/11 because we're stinking > our noses i

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Loathe
Suuure he was. Rudy is a democrat in wolves clothes. What do you see in that guy? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight Bitch slapped by my boy Rudy. Sorry, he's out.

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-16 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Paul pretty much said it was our fault for 9/11 because we're stinking > our noses in the Mid-East. That's not a opinion, but a fact. Bin Laden's stated goal was/is to overthrow the Saudi government; and he couldn't do that until he got rid of the Americans. The Saudis, for their

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:05 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Republican Debate Tonight > > I wish I had cable. However from the last debate, I did like Ron > Paul, but I also liked Mit

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Sam
Paul pretty much said it was our fault for 9/11 because we're stinking our noses in the Mid-East. I think you said that too. Giuliani asked him to take it back and he just repeated. On 5/15/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Bitch slapped by my boy Rudy. > > > > Sorry, h

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Bitch slapped by my boy Rudy. > > Sorry, he's out. > I wish I had cable. However from the last debate, I did like Ron Paul, but I also liked Mitt and Rudy. The rest of them weren't in the ballpark I thought. Can't wait to hear about the latest. ~~

Re: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Sam
Bitch slapped by my boy Rudy. Sorry, he's out. On 5/15/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Watch live coverage of the First-in-the-South Republican Party Presidential > Candidate debate on FOX News Channel and FOXNews.com on Tuesday, May 15, at 9 > p.m. EDT. > ~

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Loathe
Subject: RE: Republican Debate Tonight What time and channel? I need to set the DVR -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Republican Debate Tonight Hey, Normally I am as anti-republican as I am democrat, but

RE: Republican Debate Tonight

2007-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
What time and channel? I need to set the DVR -Original Message- From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:36 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Republican Debate Tonight Hey, Normally I am as anti-republican as I am democrat, but Ron Paul has been making some re