Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Yes Jerry, I do tend to get a little worked up when it comes to issues like this. I may not be in the military, but I have brother who is actively serving in the Navy. I

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean they should only listen to right wing opinions then. Wasn't that a part of what occurred in Germany during the 1930's? On 3/7/06, Matthew Blatchley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right...pull the soap box out from under their feet... so tired of that crap. No one should have to

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Did you just invoke Godwin's law? In a political science class, yes, in a history class it should be unbiased, no, period. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
? In a political science class, yes, in a history class it should be unbiased, no, period. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses You mean

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
I don't have a problem with other people's opinion, but I wouldn't want to pay for an education where the professors use it as an opportunity to preach their views, right or left, that's why I said, pull out the soap box. Unbiased teaching is what I pay for, not someone oppressing their views

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses History classes are unbiased? Look at some textbooks from as recent as the 1980's and then tell me

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
: military recruiting on college campuses History classes are unbiased? Look at some textbooks from as recent as the 1980's and then tell me that. As for godwin's law. I was citing a fact, not calling any the dreaded thread ending word. On 3/7/06, Kevin Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Sam
The Nationalsozialist were left wingers, kind of like today's professors, so an occasional conservative view is a good idea. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: You mean they should only listen to right wing opinions then. Wasn't that a part of what occurred in Germany during the 1930's?

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread G
I'd say the same for a right-winger doing the same type of stuff. Good to hear!!! Remember this statement when your state board of education gets around to discussing whether ideologues should be allowed to indoctrinate your children with their religious beliefs during biology classes.

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And that's what you should do. But when McCarthyite tactics are used to silence others, as what David Horowitz is trying to do at various universities across the country (i.e., http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i23/23a01801.htm and http://chronicle.com/free/v50/i23/23b01201.htm). larry On 3/7/06,

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some of his claims. http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/01/11/retract Its also interesting some of the stuff in wikipedia about him http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz Quotations * If blacks are oppressed in

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No, they were closely in bed with the corporations - the large corporations such as Zeiss and Krupp were very strong supporters of the Nazis. The laws protecting workers rights were repealed in 1934 (Hitler had been in power for a year at that point), while special laws favouring those

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
Yep, if it ain't science, it don't belong in the science class! -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I'd say the same for a right-winger doing

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some of his claims.

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, if it ain't science, it don't belong in the science class! -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I'd say the same

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
that. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some of his claims. http

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
class! -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I'd say the same for a right-winger doing the same type of stuff. Good to hear

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:10 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some of his claims. http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2006/01/11

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
And as a side note Larry, you can't honestly use wikipedia as a valid reference, that thing is rife with partisan injecture. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Sam
So you think conservatism and capitalism is all about slave labor and removing workers rights? That's GG's clue to start arguing about minimum wage again and social programs that lock people into poverty. Cause I ain't got the time. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: No, they were closely in bed

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like David Horowitz's

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Stewart
. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Here's another good commentary from the same page: Academic Freedom Is a Cornerstone of Democracy Academic freedom is a precious and fragile

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses To play devils advocate and bounce back to the original statement Is it Academic Freedom

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Matthew Blatchley
of it. - Original Message - From: Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Community cf-community@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses To play devils advocate and bounce back to the original

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3_15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like David Horowitz's little crusade and retraction of some

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
, where, according to the study, 87 percent of faculty are liberal and 13 percent are conservative. -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I do

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No, capitalism has little to do with left/right orientation. You can have equal arguments regarding slave labour from both the extreme communistic left (think gulags) or the extreme communist right (think of the Bergen-Belsen slave labour camps). Similarly what we see now has little to do with

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses Here's another example of Horowitz's purported accuracy: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2005/03/15/horowitz3 _15 On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean like David Horowitz's little

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Larry C. Lyons
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I do not think Horowitz's pushing his Academic Freedom Act is just a college campus talk. Or his offering bounties for left wing prof's statements. Or his

RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Kevin Schmidt
- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses I do not think Horowitz's pushing his Academic Freedom Act is just a college campus talk. Or his offering bounties for left

Re: SPAM-LOW: RE: military recruiting on college campuses

2006-03-07 Thread Sam
So you think in Germany in the 30's they were listening to the equivalent of today's neo-cons? I think it was the socialist the government will get you a job and provide for you message. On 3/7/06, Larry C. Lyons wrote: No, capitalism has little to do with left/right orientation. You can have