> From: Nick McClure [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 6:28 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>
> Well, they got out. They were let out, something worked, It just took too
> long. I don't think p
Well, they got out. They were let out, something worked, It just took too
long. I don't think police and lawyers Set out to put innocent people in
jail. sometimes that facts, or what look like the facts, make it hard not
believe these people committed the crime.
One must remember, victim-less
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> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:51 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> I don't know. These things are in the Constitution and I would be very
> surprised to see any Supreme Court allow these things to keep going.
>
>
I don't know. These things are in the Constitution and I would be very
surprised to see any Supreme Court allow these things to keep going.
Cases will be thrown out and there will be some many things that can go wrong.
The problem becomes the Constitution is only a document. It takes people
wh
these
laws are here. It should be hard as hell to get warrants, etc.
-Gary
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:45 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
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>
>
http://www.pacel.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
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2001 12:45 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> That's a pretty funny story! I can just see the guy yahoo-ing and
> blasting away until...click click click. Then up strolls
> Larry and the
> other guy trying to coax him into gi
> (*throws some muffins about then grabs for lunch*)
I *really* need to eat before I make posts sometimes :)
~~
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> BTW the guy who lived in the van down by the stream was the local gun nut.
> Every so often he would get drunk and start shooting at his hallucinations
> in the trailer. After a while the landlord and I would go out to check on
> him after it seemed he ran out of ammo.
A good way to get attenti
He says you still need a warrant, he just wants to make them easier to get.
At 11:05 AM 12/6/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Not if Ashcroft has his way. Look, civil liberties and law are impediments
>to men like him. He needs to subvert them for his goals to succeed.
>
>-Gary
~~~
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coincidental)
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Two
Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> ok, now that was funny!!
>
> what's funnier is you living in van down by the river!!!
>
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solution
12 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
To continue and to quote a neighbour of mine when I lived near a
trailer
part in SW Virginia (I was living in a 150 year old mill at the time),
Boy, the south end of a cow facing north looks better than you.
;-)
larry
--
La
Yeah Gary, lern how too spell!!
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
www.endoradigital.com
630/942-5211 x-134
- Original Message -
From: Will Swain
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:11 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work (Virus Free Guarantee)
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>
> At 11:56 AM
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> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
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>
> I think that we should pass a law protecting those kids who
> can't hold
> it and prosecute those that laugh at them to the fullest
> e
anit-carnivore.what does that mean? At least try to spell correctly. ;-)
will
-Original Message-
From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 December 2001 17:04
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
Well, luckily my anit-caRNIVORE
At 11:56 AM 12/6/01 -0500, you wrote:
>To mangle a quote from Benjamin Franklin,
>
>Those who are willing to give up some freedom for security end up with
>neither.
>
>larry
Franklin's quote actually says "Those that would sacrifice their freedom
for safety will find they inherit neither."
~~~
alker
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
You guys have me cracking up ...
Reminds me of when I was in Kindergarten and everyone was poking fun
at the
poor kid who didn't make it to the bathroom in time and h
CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> In that event wouldn't they have to get a warrant for each person they
> wanted to watch?
>
> At 10:51 AM 12/6/2001 -0500, you wrote:
> >Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something like
>
Well, luckily my anit-caRNIVORE SOFTWARE PROTECT ME. NO WAY IT CAN INFECT
THIS MACHINE.
-GARY
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:50 AM
> To: CF-Community
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>
> That is scary, I agree. One also has to wonder how much of this is
> *opportunism* on the part of the authorities responsible for introducing
> this.
work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
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>
> She wears combat boots too ;-)
>
> Michael
: http://www.ebstor.com
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Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -Original Message-
> From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:46 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two
-Community
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
Damn I knew I should have showered this morning.
To keep things going,
Your mother dresses you funny.
larry
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Larry C. Lyons
ColdFusion/Web Developer
EBStor.com
8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
tel: (703) 393
You guys have me cracking up ...
Reminds me of when I was in Kindergarten and everyone was poking fun at the
poor kid who didn't make it to the bathroom in time and he just stood there
and peed his pants. Some little girl close by piped up and said "Ew, you
smell!!!"
(E with a K in the UK wit
She wears combat boots too ;-)
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
www.endoradigital.com
630/942-5211 x-134
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
Speaking of this, did anyone catch the head of the Chicago public
libraries on O'Reilly's show a few days ago? I librarian there had
called the FBI to report that one of the hijackers had used one of her
computers before the attack. She got reprimanded.
The lady on the show said that she
> Web: http://www.ebstor.com
> http://www.pacel.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06,
asier, you smell :-)
Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
www.endoradigital.com
630/942-5211 x-134
- Original Message -
From: Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
Yes, but wi
.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:22 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> More food for your brain
>
> http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n964/
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- Original Message -
From: Howie Hamlin
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
Actually, yes, that's true. However, originally the FBI had to get a
06, 2001 11:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> Where did you hear that? This is from the FBI website. It's
> the link
> that I posted just a few minutes ago.
>
> "Under Title III, applications for interceptio
riginal Message -
From: Larry Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
However wiretaps require a warrant from a court, Carnivore does not
have
this requirement. Personally I think that before installing or
activat
l Message-
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:46 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
> >
> >
> > Considering that in general the US media usually ignores
> C
Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something like
> wire tapping - so, just like phone companies can't refuse, neither can
> ISP's.
>
> Howie
&g
onitor all accounts that they think the suspect has
access to.
Howie
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From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Two points and then back to wo
06, 2001 10:46 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>
>
> Considering that in general the US media usually ignores Canadian news or
> agreements. For instance did you know that the recent tariffs on Canadian
> lumber that the Bush administrat
her can
>ISP's.
>
>Howie
>
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>From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
>Subject: RE: Two points and t
sage -
From: Howie Hamlin
To: CF-Community
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something like wire
tapping - so, just like phone companies can't refuse, neither can
ISP's.
>ISP's.
>
>Howie
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
>Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
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>
> > Far be
]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
> Far better to grab the keys and passwords that to force decrypt packets,
> heh heh.
>
> From what I'd heard a lot of ISP's had baulked at installing Carnivore
> unt
Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>From what I've heard - the software already exists. And, get this,
it's like a virus. It basically infects your computer so that
the FBI can begin monitorig your activity without physically touching
your computer!
Howie
installation?
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:46
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>From what I've heard - the software already exists. And, get this, it's
like a virus. It basically inf
>From what I've heard - the software already exists. And, get this, it's like a
>virus. It basically infects your computer so that
the FBI can begin monitorig your activity without physically touching your computer!
Howie
- Original Message -
From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECT
>From what I've heard - the software already exists. And, get this, it's like a
>virus. It basically infects your computer so that
the FBI can begin monitorig your activity without physically touching your computer!
Howie
- Original Message -
From: "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECT
That is scary, I agree. One also has to wonder how much of this is
*opportunism* on the part of the authorities responsible for introducing
this. Is this _really_ going to help stop terrorism, or more likely, a way
for the government to control a medium it considers threatening?
will
-Origin
Considering that in general the US media usually ignores Canadian news or
agreements. For instance did you know that the recent tariffs on Canadian
lumber that the Bush administration has imposed may be illegal under the
NAFTA and WTO treaties? More typical bush regime ignoring international
agree
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