Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-26 Thread Judith Dinowitz
I refuse to get a digital tv ever since seeing that study that DTV was addictive (literally, physically addictive). I refuse to be more addicted than I am already. If worse comes to worse, I will simply swear it off altogether (and I can ...) Judith > This is interesting because it's almost a

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
> But are the digital spectra the same as the analog or in a different > frequency range? There were some plans to recover some spectrum that was allocated for some channels, but it conflicts with some DTV uses that could still exist. Like anything that is politically motivated, there's an icebe

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Graeme wrote: > > Look at the floating elephant! Hell, with all the changes I don't really > know anymore. Congress and the FCC have said a lot of things, and most of it > sounds like a lot of possibilities and little practicalities. I just know > that analog was 6MHz and stations are getti

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
> Didn't the FCC promise that analog spectrum to 3G providers already? I > thought that is what the big push was all about. Look at the floating elephant! Hell, with all the changes I don't really know anymore. Congress and the FCC have said a lot of things, and most of it sounds like a lot of po

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread bbraver
> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:57 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > > > > Kevin- > > > > you said "Imagine the ultimate push technology. > > Guaranteed 1Mbps+ trans

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
57 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > Kevin- > > you said "Imagine the ultimate push technology. > Guaranteed 1Mbps+ transfer to hundreds of thousands of > receivers simultaneously." > > "We will control

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Kevin Graeme wrote: > Yes, though I'm starting to get past my personal knowledge. There was quite > a hubbub about the costs and the FCC basically gave existing license owners > that already had spectrum free digital spectrum for overlap on the condition > that the previous (analog) spectrum alloc

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread bbraver
Kevin- you said "Imagine the ultimate push technology. Guaranteed 1Mbps+ transfer to hundreds of thousands of receivers simultaneously." "We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical." -The Outer Limits -Ben ___

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Graeme
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > My point was that the more efficient argument is a red-herring. Stations > have 6MHz for analog and will have 6MHz for digi

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Quoting Kevin Gilchrist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Interesting. Any ideas if the government had to throw the TV > companies a bone for forcing them into the cost of new infrstructure? Don't know about the US, but I was on the IBC last week and spoke to some people from the EBU about the rollout

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
20, 2002 2:13 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > My apologies -- I never intended to imply that the US gov't was being > altruistic. Believe me, it was the furthest thing from my mind. :-) > > > >

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > My apologies -- I never intended to imply that the US gov't was being > altruistic. Believe me, it was the furthest thing from my mind. :-) > > > > --Ben Doom > Programmer &am

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread bbraver
ke tivo? > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:28 PM > >>To: CF-Community > >>Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > >> > >>

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread bbraver
bject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > This is interesting because it's almost a reversal of recent FCC moves. > > Rough order of events: > - Congress mandates DTV by 2003. Analog will be cut off in 2006. > - Companies complain. Digital TV&

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread bbraver
- > > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:03 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > > > > Gee, there goes the new analog TV I just bought > > > >

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
x27;s why I don't see the anti-analog-out part of this bill being upheld. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:57 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Ben Doom
My apologies -- I never intended to imply that the US gov't was being altruistic. Believe me, it was the furthest thing from my mind. :-) --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : Well that's the pitch. However, I can tell you from slightly inside the : industry tha

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Smith, Matthew P -CONT(DYN)
eme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:28 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 >> >>Those have been available. Basically, the DTV decoder box has a S-Video >>output that you can plug

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
nal Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:32 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > How much you wanna bet they offer set-top digital-to- > analog converter box

Re: MICROSOFT WAS RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Bill Wheatley
ROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: MICROSOFT WAS RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > Hey, isn't this kinda like Microsoft oferring certain things on NEW OSes > that won't work on

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread jon hall
That's the plan, there are analog tv's already available that have these converters installed. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Friday, September 20, 2002, 2:32:22 PM, you wrote: bac> How much you wanna bet they offer set-top digital-to- bac> analog converter boxes - at a suitable cost, of cou

MICROSOFT WAS RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Phoeun Pha
ubject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 How much you wanna bet they offer set-top digital-to- analog converter boxes - at a suitable cost, of course... -Ben > Gee, there goes the new analog TV I just bought > > -Original Message- > From: Howie Hamlin [m

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
current tuners obsolete because they can't pass the encrypted signal to the screen. Kevin Graeme > -Original Message- > From: Phoeun Pha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
n Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 1:16 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > > > The big push is because of wireless bandwidth. Analog TV takes up a huge > swath of it in "prime real estate.&q

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Gilchrist
I guess Congress is keen to kick everyone off the analog bandwidth so they can auction it ASAP. -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:14 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread bbraver
How much you wanna bet they offer set-top digital-to- analog converter boxes - at a suitable cost, of course... -Ben > Gee, there goes the new analog TV I just bought > > -Original Message- > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:54 PM > To:

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Bill Wheatley
yea then the Gvt can sell the rights to the freed up Frequencies to Phone and other Services. You can fit i think it was 6 digital channels in the same space as 1 analog channel so they will free up alot of frequencies to sell to make alot of money :) Umm if the govt's gonna be able to make all t

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Ben Doom
's not just the electronics industry paying for this. :-j --Ben Doom Programmer & General Lackey Moonbow Software : -Original Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] : Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:02 PM : To: CF-Community : Subject: Re: US Governm

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Howie Hamlin
All your TVs are belong to us. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 > how much are they (the electronics i

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
This is interesting because it's almost a reversal of recent FCC moves. Rough order of events: - Congress mandates DTV by 2003. Analog will be cut off in 2006. - Companies complain. Digital TV's ludicrously expensive. - Congress mandates DTV broadcasts by 2006. Some stations analog cut off if the

RE: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread Phoeun Pha
Gee, there goes the new analog TV I just bought -Original Message- From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006 http://www.msnbc.com/news/810360.asp?0dm=C15LT U.S. law

Re: US Government might make you buy a new TV in 2006

2002-09-20 Thread bbraver
how much are they (the electronics industry) paying Tauzin?? > http://www.msnbc.com/news/810360.asp?0dm=C15LT > > U.S. lawmakers are working on an effort that would render standard televisions > and VCRs obsolete within five years by > requiring broadcasters to switch to digital, copy-protecte