RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> Hey look if your boss's boss's boss (ie the owner > of the company) is standing over your shoulder while > you code and telling you to do things one way when > you're convinced its a bad idea what do you do? That would depend on what I was coding. Website, whatever, do it his way. Code that co

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Not if it endangered my life...no... -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 9:52 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error Hey look if your boss&#

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> The captain can still counter it. You'd think the same > would be true for pilots in a plane in the air. It is. The pilot in command is entirely responsible for the safe conduct of the flight. -Justin ~| Order the Adobe C

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> With regards to landing a plane I think Yoda said it best: > Do, or do not. There is no try. LOL, indeed. You're coming back to the ground eventually, it's just a matter of where and how much control you have over the airplane when you do. -Justin ~

RE: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Justin Scott
> I don't understand how people hold other variables > in a decision as higher than human lives. such as > getting to a ceremony on time, or keeping a job! Indeed. One of the things we learn in flight training it to avoid "getthereitis" where you feel you HAVE to make a deadline. Safety is par

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Kris Sisk
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html > >Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions for >landing do not exist" and that an il76 had waved off twice and decided >not to land. > >but the Polish President didn't want to be late for the

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Medic
With regards to landing a plane I think Yoda said it best: Do, or do not. There is no try. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html > > Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
Where code and company profits are concerned? I would do what he wants. Where MY life and the lives of others are concerned...f*** him! I don't understand how people hold other variables in a decision as higher than human lives. such as getting to a ceremony on time, or keeping a job! Once the

Re: Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hey look if your boss's boss's boss (ie the owner of the company) is standing over your shoulder while you code and telling you to do things one way when you're convinced its a bad idea what do you do? On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/pol

Sad facts emerge in Polish plane crash disaster. Human Error error error error

2010-06-02 Thread Vivec
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/01/poland-releases-plane-cra_n_596523.html Apparently the control tower informed the pilot that "conditions for landing do not exist" and that an il76 had waved off twice and decided not to land. but the Polish President didn't want to be late for the ceremo