Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-12 Thread Dana Tierney
welp, you tell me if you care enough to look. It's about the third result down if you google schiavo autopsy. It looks to me that they are quite definite about the heart attack. It also looks as though they are simply saying that it's inconclusive on trauma -- there were fractures b

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-12 Thread William Bowen
> b) She did NOT have a heart attack and there's no evidence she had an eating > disorder. So then the autopsy showed that she didn't have a heart attack as contended by her husband, > c) there's also no evidence of trauma or strangulation but also that she wasn't murdered (or attempted) as con

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-12 Thread Dana Tierney
a) the damage was to motor areas, not cortex. In other words, it's entirely possible that she was aware and unable to communicate. b) She did NOT have a heart attack and there's no evidence she had an eating disorder. c) there's also no evidence of trauma or strangulation cause of death = un

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-11 Thread Jerry Johnson
11, 2007 5:20 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > > > People used to know that the world is flat. Many people today know that > > Saddam Hussein ordered planes to fly into the Twin Towers. You might > > want to read the actual

RE: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-11 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:20 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > People used to know that the world is flat. Many people today know that > Saddam Hussein or

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-11 Thread Dana Tierney
s an Indonesia even tho' I've never been >there. I read and heard about it from respectable sources. > >Google "Schiavo Autopsy" and read the information from media outlet of your >choice. > >Jim Davis

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
> > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:02 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > > > > > yeah? how do you know that? > > > > The same way I "kn

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-09 Thread Dinner
On 3/9/07, Jim Davis wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:02 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > > > yeah? how do you know th

RE: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-09 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:02 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > yeah? how do you know that? The same way I "know" that there's an Indonesia

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-09 Thread G Money
He bought her brain in E-bay and weighed it Happy friday folks. On 3/9/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yeah? how do you know that? > > >> -Original Message- > > > >I was actually talking about the autopsy. > > > >The brain weighed less than half of what it should have

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-09 Thread Dana Tierney
yeah? how do you know that? >> -Original Message- > >I was actually talking about the autopsy. > >The brain weighed less than half of what it should have and what was left >featured massive damage. > >80% is probably being generous. > >Jim Davis ~~~

RE: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:46 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > we have no idea what state Schiavo's brain was in. A CAT is not the > right tool, and

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Dana Tierney
we have no idea what state Schiavo's brain was in. A CAT is not the right tool, and the one they had was ancient. They refused to get her an MRI, which would have put the whole controversy to rest. >> -Original Message- > >Except that when 80% of its turned to jelly (l

RE: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:21 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns > > So I actually went out and read what little the CNN article talked > about the > case

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Hofman wrote: > I've thought of that approach to this administration myself. > If only Bush would. ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.co

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've thought of that approach to this administration myself. Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > She's waiting out the Bush presidency. > > > On 3/8/07, G Money wrote: > > >> That makes this case obviously quite different. Is interesting that her >> neurologist is at a loss for why she keeps waking up

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
She's waiting out the Bush presidency. On 3/8/07, G Money wrote: > That makes this case obviously quite different. Is interesting that her > neurologist is at a loss for why she keeps waking up then goin' back to > sleep. Lot's we don't know about the brain, obviously. > ~~~

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread G Money
So I actually went out and read what little the CNN article talked about the case. Apparently she has always maintained minimal consciousness, which sets her apart from Schiavo. This isn't the first time she's woken up either, apparently she's woken on 3 or 4 other brief occasio

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > We need to kill her NOW, before she wakes up again. > LOL, black humor, but funny. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/produc

Re: Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread G Money
We need to kill her NOW, before she wakes up again. I'm in one of those moods. On 3/8/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Woman awakens after 6 years, slips back > Thu Mar 8, 7:14 AM ET > > COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - A woman who went into a vegetative state > more than six years ago awok

Uh Oh. Schiavo Case Returns

2007-03-08 Thread Gruss Gott
Woman awakens after 6 years, slips back Thu Mar 8, 7:14 AM ET COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - A woman who went into a vegetative state more than six years ago awoke this week for three days and spoke with her family and a local television station before slipping back. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/2007030

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Dana Tierney
ts decide to discontinue conventional >treatments the disease may progress to the point that even conventional >treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk? > >-Original Message- >From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:25 AM >T

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Dana Tierney
ts decide to discontinue conventional >treatments the disease may progress to the point that even conventional >treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk? > >-Original Message- >From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:25 AM >T

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Dana Tierney
t the hell alone. Even though I think he is making a mistake, and that is why I suggest the inquiry. >There's a battle brewing in Virginia which is very similar to the >Schiavo case in Florida: a minor, Abraham Cherrix, has decided along >with his parents to refuse a second round ch

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
arents are judged to be in neglect of their responsibilities. Duane -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? > Duane wrote: > Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze &

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Jerry Johnson
I agree. I think the state should stay out of it for now, since the parents and the child are in agreement. Except... If the kid dies, and the state judges it was actions or inactions by the parents that caused the kid to die (or die early), then the parents should be able to be prosecuted for ba

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Duane wrote: > Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze > it up if the parents choose to allow it? They can. > My argument was in > the case where a child has a life threatening condition, then the child's > welfare is more important than the parental choice. > Who determines "life th

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread G Money
On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The same argument by your statement could be made for allowing parents to > decide whether their kids can smoke cigarettes and drink booze before the > age of 19 (21 in the US). Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze > it up if the parents

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
> What about letting kids eat ice cream and play PS2 all day? What > about childhood sports where there is a high degree of injury, some of > it fatal? How about childhood TV stars? They ALWAYS turn out bad. > Doesn't that also endanger the child? The same argument by your statement could be ma

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
---Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? > Duane wrote: > In this case we are talking about a child whose decision is presumably > being made for him Nope. In this case we'r

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Duane wrote: > In this case we are talking about a child whose decision is presumably > being made for him Nope. In this case we're talking about a 16 year old who came to a decision based on his own research and his parents are supporting that decision. So if your point is that the government

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
is decision is not a religous-based one. 5. The method that they are trying to use is called the "Hoxsey" method. This case is different from the Schiavo case on a number of points. The case was brought up by a Virginia Social Services worker (probably contacted by his doctor) instead of the

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> Duane wrote: > At some point the welfare of the child is more important then parental > choice. These people have made a choice that endangers the welfare of the > child. What about letting kids eat ice cream and play PS2 all day? What about childhood sports where there is a high degree of inju

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
n determine whether a child is able to make their own decisions, that is why there is a legal age of consent. In this case, IMHO, life trumps parental beliefs. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re:

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread G Money
That really is what all of this boils down too. Either you belief "life trumps all", or you don't. I personally do not. On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As for 7th day Adventists, to me it is a simple case of the child's > welfare. > If the child dies without the transfusion, then

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
ox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:40 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? that is stepping way over the bounds of parental choice. Are we going to require that the 7th day adventists receive blood transfusions from now on? This is one of those situations where you

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
7;s is a very > survivable disease but if the parents let the disease progress then it > becomes very serious. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Sch

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
al Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:44 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? Be careful what you are agreeing with. I think the kid should do chemo too.but that aint my decision, and it sure as hell aint a courts decision. Today they are dec

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:25 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Schiavo II? > > This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatment > for kids with serious can

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
what was available even 10 years ago (according to my oncologist). -Original Message- From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:34 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? Chemo killed my father-in-law. He would have lived at least another year if

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread G Money
Be careful what you are agreeing with. I think the kid should do chemo too.but that aint my decision, and it sure as hell aint a courts decision. Today they are deciding what this kid should do, tomorrow it might be you. On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chemo can be pretty na

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
even conventional treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk? -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatmen

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Chesty Puller
Chemo killed my father-in-law. He would have lived at least another year if he'd not started that stuff. - Matt - Original Message - From: "Duane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Schiavo II? &

RE: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Duane
quot;as well as" not "instead of" chemotherapy. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:09 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Schiavo II? Chemo is such a nasty, nasty treatment option...I can certainly empathize with anyone

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread G Money
Nope. What makes this different is the presence of a conservative activist court (yep, that's what it is) that wants to meddle in the family's private affairs to push it's own agenda. On 7/13/06, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to disco

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Deanna Schneider
This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatment for kids with serious cancers. What makes this so different? Just the fact that he's going with some alternate treatment option instead of saying, "no more treatment, I'd prefer to just die?" On 7/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Robert Everland III
This one is tricky though because the person deciding they don't want the treatment is a minor. I don't even want to begin to decide this one. On one hand these parents really could be intelligent people and realize that the chemo may be doing more harm then good, but on the other hand they coul

Re: Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread G Money
, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There's a battle brewing in Virginia which is very similar to the > Schiavo case in Florida: a minor, Abraham Cherrix, has decided along > with his parents to refuse a second round chemotherapy in favor of an > organic herbal treat

Schiavo II?

2006-07-13 Thread Gruss Gott
There's a battle brewing in Virginia which is very similar to the Schiavo case in Florida: a minor, Abraham Cherrix, has decided along with his parents to refuse a second round chemotherapy in favor of an organic herbal treatment for Hodgkin's disease. A court has decided that h

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-28 Thread Dana Tierney
wah wah wah those mean people questioned my right to kill my wife. WHat a freaking whiner. >Ugh, can we pull the plug on HIM? > >Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga >already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely >from his point of

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-28 Thread G
Oh God, let's hope not. Even though I agree with him...i smell another Cindy Sheehan brewing. Stretch that 15 minutes as far as you can, rail and crusade, generally make an ass-spectacle of yourself. The system worked, eventuallyso shut up and live in peace you weasel. >> gMoney wrote: >> S

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-28 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga > already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely > from his point of view...sounds excrutiatingly painful. > He's got a political action committee going too! He's going after Sen F

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-28 Thread G
Ugh, can we pull the plug on HIM? Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely from his point of view...sounds excrutiatingly painful. > > LOL - HhhhEEE' BAck > > He's got a

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Dana Tierney
I am all for family rights! I just don't think this is a family rights case. I think it's a civil rights case. But let's not... I have way too much to do, lol ;) > Ah, go ahead and get it out. You pretty much know where I stand > (family rights over gov't rights) and I'm always fascinated by yo

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > Poster child for beneath contempt. I don't want to say what I *really* think, > or we'll hash it all out > all over again ;) Ah, go ahead and get it out. You pretty much know where I stand (family rights over gov't rights) and I'm always fascinated by your point of view. I'll st

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Dana Tierney
Poster child for beneath contempt. I don't want to say what I *really* think, or we'll hash it all out all over again ;) Dana >He's got a book coming out, and so have the parents. He says he >invited both Gov Bush and Pres Bush to visit Terry with him, but they >refused. ~~~

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > oh god. > LOL - HhhhEEE' BAck He's got a book coming out, and so have the parents. He says he invited both Gov Bush and Pres Bush to visit Terry with him, but they refused. ~| Message: http:/

Re: Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Dana Tierney
oh god. >So, just because it was one of the most explosive issues on this list >I thought I'd mention that Michael Schiavo is on the attack against >politicians, etc and will be on MSNBC on the Countdown show which >star

Schiavo Is On The Attack

2006-03-27 Thread Gruss Gott
So, just because it was one of the most explosive issues on this list I thought I'd mention that Michael Schiavo is on the attack against politicians, etc and will be on MSNBC on the Countdown show which starts at 7pm Ce

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Now I'm hungry. On 7/9/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, but you have L'etoile and many other great restaurants that put > Minneapolis (and some in Chicago) to shame. Not to mention red > brats-n-beer. And cheese (not kidding). And decent fireworks. > > ~~~

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Madison's a nice town. But it likes to think it's more cultured than > it is. At least it tries though, I guess. > Yes, but you have L'etoile and many other great restaurants that put Minneapolis (and some in Chicago) to shame. Not to mention red brats-n-beer. And cheese (not

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
I miss grown up theaters. Around here they never have food or drink at intermission and if they do have them on opening night it's after the show and it's something stupid like apple juice and crackers that people on the production brought in. That's what they fed us in kindergarten. Admittedly, I

Re: Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > Where did you see it? I used to go to the Guthrie fairly often. I hear > they're moving. Have they yet? > Yeah Guthrie, and nope still the old one. It's nice because it's small so there's not a bad seat in the house, but it is cramped. They have a nice deal too in that you can

Play (was Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry)

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
Where did you see it? I used to go to the Guthrie fairly often. I hear they're moving. Have they yet? -Kevin On 7/8/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To change topics, I just saw a looonnnggg play with Angela Bassett > (sp?), the dad from Family Matters, and some other stars I think. I

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin wrote: > /me sits in his bunker and chews on the bones of cold kentucky fried > rat and wonders when the world will be safe for human habitation > again. > Hey Kevin. Don't bogart the rat. To change topics, I just saw a looonnnggg play with Angela Bassett (sp?), the dad from Family Mat

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
/me sits in his bunker and chews on the bones of cold kentucky fried rat and wonders when the world will be safe for human habitation again. On 7/8/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... now you're making me mad. ~| Discov

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
makes you more objective than I am does it... o-ky. > > > And the remark about religious beliefs is completely relevant too. I > > know a ton of people who change their religious beliefs and either do > > not inform their parents or have their parents fail to respect their

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
and now the woman is dead. However, in the absence of specific knowledge should we really have decided her life was not worth living? Excuse me, but this is not an ignorant question and it could apply to you one day. As a matter of fact my own interest in the case stemmed far more from my discovery that my d

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Jennifer Larkin
If you've read all of the court documents (which by the way, aren't readily available) you would know that a single judge does not have jurisdiction in multiple courts. The judge did not know the guy in question before any legal proceedings or he/she would have been legally required to dismiss his

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
ve to move him from 0 to 2. > > 2.) Next there's the profile and the unsubstantiated rumors. I'll be > generous and say that those get us from 2 to 4. > > Ok, let's also assume that a "3" is necesary for an inquiry and a "5" > for an investigation

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
o deciding that some lives are more valuable than others. It may well be that Terri Schiavo died as she would have wished. Personally, I don't think so. Dana On 7/8/05, Jennifer Larkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, it can be very difficult to convict someone of domesti

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
now *there's* an incentive to answer this bit of hysteria... just... whatever, Larry. Dana > back to kill file status. ~| Purchase Studio MX from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
ed the police due to violent sounding fights or, > 2.) that the police had been over and witnessed something or, > 3.) that friends, family saw her with bruises and abrasions, or > 4.) that she complained to others that Mr. Schiavo had hit her, or > 5.) any of that from any of his sub

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
"Children, I'll be frank. In the event of nuclear war we can only save our best and brightest. Therefore, space in the fallout shelter will be reserved for Lisa Simpson, Martin Prince, our championship kickball team, and Sherri, but not Terri. " On 7/8/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Y

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That one advantage to raising carnivorous ferrets. And you all wondered why they were so friendly. Human, the other other white meat... larry On 7/8/05, Jennifer Larkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So THAT's where you're storing the bodies! Somebody call the cops! > > On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh shi > > /me dons body armor, inserts ceramic plates, wraps self in fireproof > blanket, and climbs down into the fallout shelter. > You know, it's not so bad in this fallout shelter. Kill those bugs and get a little paint and it should be nice.

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Jennifer Larkin
So THAT's where you're storing the bodies! Somebody call the cops! On 7/8/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh shi > > /me dons body armor, inserts ceramic plates, wraps self in fireproof > blanket, and climbs down into the fallout shelter. -- "You can't destroy EVERYthing. Where

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Oh shi /me dons body armor, inserts ceramic plates, wraps self in fireproof blanket, and climbs down into the fallout shelter. On 7/8/05, Jennifer Larkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, it can be very difficult to convict someone of domestic > abuse. But to accuse a judge of ignor

RE: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread SStewart
rcass... and thus the Pipes were born" the Scottish Rogues -Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 02:44 pm To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry Importance: Low It wasn't me it was the one armed

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It wasn't me it was the one armed man. On 7/8/05, SStewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Seriously. How many affluent white males between 30-40 do we have around > here? They are all clearly serial killers. Let's just lock them up now and > get it over with." > > I am not, that was red paint on

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
m from 0 to 2. 2.) Next there's the profile and the unsubstantiated rumors. I'll be generous and say that those get us from 2 to 4. Ok, let's also assume that a "3" is necesary for an inquiry and a "5" for an investigation. Mr. Schiavo is now a generous (to Da

RE: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread SStewart
"Seriously. How many affluent white males between 30-40 do we have around here? They are all clearly serial killers. Let's just lock them up now and get it over with." I am not, that was red paint on my hands, I was digging in the yard because I like to garden. sas Scott A. Stewart, Web Appl

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ers. Let's just lock them up now and get it > over with. > > On 7/8/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is evidence. It was presented at one or another of the hearings > > (who cares which at this point) and the judge chose to disregard it > > because Schi

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Jennifer Larkin
around here? They are all clearly serial killers. Let's just lock them up now and get it over with. On 7/8/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is evidence. It was presented at one or another of the hearings > (who cares which at this point) and the judge chose to disregard

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ble to show any support of a single one. But given that its Shiavo I guess that's OK, in your eyes he's evil incarnate and so doesn't deserve the same rights we all have. back to kill file status. On 7/8/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > please see our previous very

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
olent sounding fights or, 2.) that the police had been over and witnessed something or, 3.) that friends, family saw her with bruises and abrasions, or 4.) that she complained to others that Mr. Schiavo had hit her, or 5.) any of that from any of his subsequent girlfriends. For me, the profile argue

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
please see our previous very lengthy discussion as to whether or not Schiavo fits the profile of an abusive male. Off the top of my head, there was the testimony of the subsequent girlfriend and evidence from some of Terri's friends that he was controlling and jealous ot the point of checkin

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > There is evidence. What was it? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusio

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
There is evidence. It was presented at one or another of the hearings (who cares which at this point) and the judge chose to disregard it because Schiavo is so obviously a nice guy :) Which is par for the course and really not that surprising. There almost never is enough evidence because women

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
to the possibility that there was domestic violence. The problem I have is that there's not a single shred of evidence to indicate there was any and nobody has accused Mr. Schiavo of domestic violence since. For example, if Mr. Schiavo was a spouse abuser either then or now, why isn&#

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
No. I am saying that the bar for a homicide investigation is pretty high, it's what, fifteen years later, and any other finding would have raised questions about politicians probably still in office. Like, if there is criminal responsibility, why wasn't it pusued at the time? One possible reason (

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > SAG isn't in the story. This is Pinellas County investigating Pinellas > County. Which is another way of saying you think this is a coverup. From the text of the article: "In the new report, Mr. McCabe said that to open a full homicide investigation, there must be some fact or e

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
SAG isn't in the story. This is Pinellas County investigating Pinellas County. They are so going to say whoops we were negligent and caused this woman's incapacitation :) This bit of sarcasm is true whether there were or weren't. It's definitely one for the "ain't going to happen" category. Pu

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > as if that weren't a foregone conclusion... > Is the implication there that the SAG is involved in some type of coverup conspiracy? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficienc

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Dana
as if that weren't a foregone conclusion... Dana On 7/7/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TALLAHASSEE, Fla., July 7 (AP) - A state attorney has found no > evidence that Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago involved criminal > activity, and Gov. Jeb Bush on Thursday declared an end to F

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Jerry Johnson
And the federal gov hasn't had its turn yet (before the state has another try at it) On 7/8/05, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An end to things? But Randall Terry hasn't gone on his book tour yet... > ~| Discover CFTi

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
What's really needed is for someone to catch Randall Terry on film, in bed with a 12 year old. Either that or really bust the jerk for arson. larry On 7/8/05, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An end to things? But Randall Terry hasn't gone on his book tour yet... > > - Jim > > Larry

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Jim Campbell
An end to things? But Randall Terry hasn't gone on his book tour yet... - Jim Larry C. Lyons wrote: >Hopefully this will put an end to things finally. No assault, and no >criminality involved. Perhaps now the True Believers will lay off. > >larry > >On 7/7/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Hopefully this will put an end to things finally. No assault, and no criminality involved. Perhaps now the True Believers will lay off. larry On 7/7/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TALLAHASSEE, Fla., July 7 (AP) - A state attorney has found no > evidence that Terri Schiavo's collapse

Bush Ends Schiavo Inquiry

2005-07-07 Thread Gruss Gott
TALLAHASSEE, Fla., July 7 (AP) - A state attorney has found no evidence that Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago involved criminal activity, and Gov. Jeb Bush on Thursday declared an end to Florida's involvement in the matter. "Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that th

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