Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
I was just attempting to pull it back to the center a bit, and get people admitting there are shades of grey here. I did not mention abortion, but a general "doctor's appointment", which could include egg collection as well. But statements like "murder", and "your moral objections shouldn't stand

RE: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Scott Stewart
lves if need be. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:33 P

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Jerry Johnson
So said Dr Mangele. (Not invoking Godwin's Law, just wanted to add a little balance to the discussion.) One man's "murder" is another woman's 11:00 appointment, right before lunch. On 9/7/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you... couldn't have said it better. > From: G Money [m

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread William Bowen
> I have no moral objection to Visual Studio. I do have an objection to murder. Have you an objection to in vitro fertilization? That process results in far more discarded embryos than abortions. So I would think that if you have an objection to abortion you should be all up on arms about in vit

RE: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Scott Stewart
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 4:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats Your moral objections shouldn't stand in the way of my development. Or to put this back into the correct context, your moral objections shouldn't stand in the way of research t

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread G Money
Your moral objections shouldn't stand in the way of my development. Or to put this back into the correct context, your moral objections shouldn't stand in the way of research that may one day save MY life. On 9/7/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have no moral objection to Visual

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
it's all in how you view it. To some of us, using stem cells from embryo's that are going to be destroyed is not murder, but making someone use Visual Studio is a cruel and unusual punishment sometimes considered worse than murder. On 9/7/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Russel Madere
I have no moral objection to Visual Studio. I do have an objection to murder. >Isn't that kind of like asking some developers to build you a .NET >application, but forbidding them from using Visual Studio? Then if they >protest, saying "Hey, quit whining and get off your asses to make Notepad >mo

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread G Money
Isn't that kind of like asking some developers to build you a .NET application, but forbidding them from using Visual Studio? Then if they protest, saying "Hey, quit whining and get off your asses to make Notepad more like Visual Studio!" On 9/7/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Judah McAuley
Russel Madere wrote: > So instead of whining about the lack of embryonic stem cells these > scientist need to get off of thier asses and work on making adult > cells plenipotentiary or do the catalog. Plus I think the scientific > community needs to look deeper at other teatments like gene therapy

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Russel Madere
So instead of whining about the lack of embryonic stem cells these scientist need to get off of thier asses and work on making adult cells plenipotentiary or do the catalog. Plus I think the scientific community needs to look deeper at other teatments like gene therapy. Stem cells are useful,

Re: Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-07 Thread Judah McAuley
Russel Madere wrote: > If adult stem cells work, are embrionic cells necessary? > > http://www.thestar.com/article/253699 Cool article. > Over the course of their research, the team found that skin-derived > stem cells share characteristics with embryonic neural stem cells, > which generate the

Skin stem cells used to mend spines of rats

2007-09-06 Thread Russel Madere
If adult stem cells work, are embrionic cells necessary? http://www.thestar.com/article/253699 Sep 06, 2007 04:30 AM Megan Ogilvie Health Reporter A Toronto-led team of researchers has found a way to use stem cells derived from skin to treat spinal cord injuries in rats. The finding lends pr