Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-18 Thread Andrew Grosset
There's always wood... http://ww2.whidbey.net/jameslux/woodgas.htm This technology has been around for years, Google turns up lots of interesting stuff! another: wood gas as an engine fuel, http://www.fao.org/docrep/t0512e/T0512e00.htm#Contents ~~~

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Several years ago, I heard a NPR piece on Brazil and its use of "Flex" cars. These cars can use gasoline or alcohol or any mixture of the two. Here is a link to an article I found about the same thing: http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1007/p05s01-woam.html Funny thing, if I remember correctly, is

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Vivec
DiGiornos?? :) 2008/5/16 Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Driving to lunch cost me $5. > > Rick > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doublecli

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Rick Root
I paid $3.79 for regular unleaded this morning here in Durham, NC I carpool twice a week but drove my truck today. Driving to lunch cost me $5. Rick ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Duane
] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:55 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Speaking of fuel yeah, but Duane was the one originally talking about a Harley. On May 16, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Dana wrote: > Bruce is in California. It's Duane that is in Canada. Though the > weather is > relatively

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Dana
you can't kill a toyota. You have to run it without oil on a cross-country trip with a bent axle and then you might maybe come close. Maybe. Mine survived and wound up being towed off because it had body damage and I had a title issue when the tags expired. On 5/16/08, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Dana
ah got it On 5/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yeah, but Duane was the one originally talking about a Harley. > > On May 16, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Dana wrote: > > > Bruce is in California. It's Duane that is in Canada. Though the > > weather is > > relatively mild where he is.

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Ian Skinner
Deanna Schneider wrote: > I still think it's crazy that I can get 40mpg in my 1994 stock model, > bottom of the barrel, Nissan Sentra, and you can't get any cars with > that kind of MPG without going hybrid these days. I'm pretty darn sure > car makers haven't forgotten how to build small, fuel-eff

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread William Bowen
> yeah, it does seem crazy.my sister's got a 1991 Acura Integra with > almost 200,000 miles on it and it still averages above 35mpg. Pretty much the same story here. 1993 Toyota Corolla DX, 250,200 miles, 32-33 mpg average since we bought it in 1995. Keep it belted and oiled and you're good

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Erika L. Walker
I wish I had hand cranks! Then I'd not care about the air!! :) > :: -Original Message- > :: From: Jerry Johnson > :: > :: What are these "electric windows" you mention? LOL. > :: > :: Hand cranks, no air, no shocks (leaf springs front and back). ~~

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Not true at this time of the year. Yesterday was in the low 80's, but in the IE it was nearly 90. I did finally take the cover off the swamp cooler yesterday, prepped it for use and fired it up for the first time this year. Man that was nice. But, when summer hits, yes, it is a bit hotter here t

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
yeah, but Duane was the one originally talking about a Harley. On May 16, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Dana wrote: > Bruce is in California. It's Duane that is in Canada. Though the > weather is > relatively mild where he is. > > seeking clarity, for a better tomorrow > Dana > > > On 5/16/08, [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
I just found an article about it, and basically it's because with all the safety stuff and "comfort" add-ons, cars weigh more so they need bigger engines. But, seriously, how much can air bags weigh? I'd take crappy cloth seats + air bags & high MPG over surround sound, sync, chilled glove compartm

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Jacob
Going to be a scorcher here in So Cal today and this weekend... I guess the good thing about not living in the high desert is its about 15 degrees cooler. -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:41 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Speaking of

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
yeah, it does seem crazy.my sister's got a 1991 Acura Integra with almost 200,000 miles on it and it still averages above 35mpg. On May 16, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Deanna Schneider wrote: > I still think it's crazy that I can get 40mpg in my 1994 stock model, > bottom of the barrel, Nissan Sentr

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
I took it in last summer for an overhaul. figured keeping it running well is cheaper than a car payment. and sitting at 50K in total miles feels pretty good. What are these "electric windows" you mention? LOL. Hand cranks, no air, no shocks (leaf springs front and back). But it does have built-

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Ahh yes, good times. Did the same when I lived in South Dakota, but was a hail storm. And they don't have a helmet law, so I was really hurting. And I see what you are saying. But whether you trade in a vehicle, or buy a second more economical one, it is still going to take a while to recoup wh

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Dana
Bruce is in California. It's Duane that is in Canada. Though the weather is relatively mild where he is. seeking clarity, for a better tomorrow Dana On 5/16/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> iwrote: > > I always assume motorcycles are a secondary vehicleespecially in > Canada so I wa

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
I always assume motorcycles are a secondary vehicleespecially in Canada so I was thinking that this would be 10,000 in addition to whatever he has now, not a replacement. I speak from the point of view of a person who had a motorcycle for his sole transportation in college and remembers

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Erika L. Walker
Awesome. Do a check on anything rubber too though. I know you won't be using it anytime soon, but rubber dry rots as you know, so belts may be "questionable" as may gaskets that are exposed in any way, blah blah blah. You keep hanging onto that puppy and you'll be able to put a historic plate on i

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
I still think it's crazy that I can get 40mpg in my 1994 stock model, bottom of the barrel, Nissan Sentra, and you can't get any cars with that kind of MPG without going hybrid these days. I'm pretty darn sure car makers haven't forgotten how to build small, fuel-efficient engines. So, why can't yo

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
I guess the same can be said when someone trades in their gas guzzler for one of those hybrids or some other economy car, right? For me personally, a bike is not a way to save $$ on gas but rather I just love to ride. I don't care how good or bad mileage a bike can get, I just love to ride. Rain

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
1995 Jeep Wrangler. I start it and run it every few weeks, just to keep it in running order, but it seldom leaves the lot. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow. And I thought I had low mileage ... > > What kind of vehicle is it? > > > :: -Origin

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
uhhh, how long will it take to make up the difference in fuel for a $10,000 bike? On May 16, 2008, at 9:06 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > Can't go wrong with a Harley. I would steer away from the Sportsters > though. Those are really chick bikes. Every man that I know that has > had > one, includ

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Can't go wrong with a Harley. I would steer away from the Sportsters though. Those are really chick bikes. Every man that I know that has had one, including my brother and step-father never liked them because they are so small. Go for a Dynaglide. If you want a good entry level touring bike, go

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Erika L. Walker
Wow. And I thought I had low mileage ... What kind of vehicle is it? > :: -Original Message- > :: From: Jerry Johnson > :: > :: No, but it is the 4th to last time my car has left the parking lot. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, but it is the 4th to last time my car has left the parking lot. foot, bike, taxi, bus, subway, amtrak, and like any reformed consumer - letting other people drive. On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:13 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that the last time the flux capacitor ran out? > > > On May 1

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
Is that the last time the flux capacitor ran out? On May 15, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > I filled up in June 2005. > > Haven't used a whole tank since then. > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:19 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I fill up once a week. 8.9 gallons and usually just over

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-16 Thread Dana
I fill up about once a week and usually drive most of the way across town several times a day (working on that part). It's about 15 miles to work. On 5/15/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What are you? Chuck Norris? > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL P

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Cameron Childress
What are you? Chuck Norris? On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I filled up in June 2005. > > Haven't used a whole tank since then. > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:19 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I fill up once a week. 8.9 gallons and usually just ov

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Jerry Johnson
I filled up in June 2005. Haven't used a whole tank since then. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:19 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I fill up once a week. 8.9 gallons and usually just over 500 miles. > > "Don't hate me because I'm economical" > ~~

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread zaph0d . b33bl3br0x
I fill up once a week. 8.9 gallons and usually just over 500 miles. "Don't hate me because I'm economical" On May 15, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Paul Ihrig wrote: > i fill up 3 times a week. > 39 gallons total > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFus

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Ihrig
i fill up 3 times a week. 39 gallons total ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseof

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Duane
, something along the lines of an entry level Harley would fit the bill for me. Duane -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Speaking of fuel I think I paid $4.27 for 93 Octane today in-own

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, ain't that the truth. I have been driving my brother's H3 lately since he is out of town. It costs me over $160.00 to fill up my truck as opposed to less than $100.00 to fill up his car. They get about the same mileage so I am saving $$ for the next week or so. morgan l wrote: > To me, it

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
Ahh, LA county. That explains it. In SB County I think gas and fuel are cheaper. Jacob wrote: > It seems like the close you are to Torrance, Carson, or Wilmington, the more > gas is. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread morgan l
To me, it always seems the closer I am to 'E', the more gas is. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems like the close you are to Torrance, Carson, or Wilmington, the > more > gas is. ~| Ado

RE: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Jacob
It seems like the close you are to Torrance, Carson, or Wilmington, the more gas is. -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 1:50 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Speaking of fuel I am referring to diesel. Gasoline starts at 3.91 a

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Dana
::nod:: just saying. We're high desert here but we're the biggest thing around for hundreds of miles. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I live in a rather small tri-community area. The population from > all three towns are less than 50K, and we have ab

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
Well I live in a rather small tri-community area. The population from all three towns are less than 50K, and we have about five gas stations between all three towns. Hell, we are not even incorporated and don't even have our own police. Dana wrote: > I don' t think it's altitude I think it is t

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Dana
I don' t think it's altitude I think it is the size of the town. On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am referring to diesel. Gasoline starts at 3.91 a gallon here. I am > surprised that gas and fuel is more down the hill though. I thought the > high desert

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
I am referring to diesel. Gasoline starts at 3.91 a gallon here. I am surprised that gas and fuel is more down the hill though. I thought the high desert had the higher prices. Dana wrote: > what??? It was 3.63 or something last night and I thought *that* was high > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:4

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Dana
. > > Jacob wrote: > > Speaking of fuel.. diesel #2 is over $5 in some places here in So cal. > > Drove by one the other day. > > > > 87 octane is $3.97 at two stations next to my house. > > > > ~

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yeah, it is $4.79 here in the high desert. I can't wait to get to Colorado Springs next month. Fuel is $1.00 cheaper there. Jacob wrote: > Speaking of fuel.. diesel #2 is over $5 in some places here in So cal. > Drove by one the other day. > > 87 octane is $3.97 at two stations

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Loathe
93 was 4.11 today Jacob wrote: > Speaking of fuel.. diesel #2 is over $5 in some places here in So cal. > Drove by one the other day. > > 87 octane is $3.97 at two stations next to my house. > > > ~|

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread William Bowen
> I think I paid $4.27 for 93 Octane today in-own Atlanta $3.99 for 89 Octane in Everett WA yesterday afternoon... :-\ -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~~

Re: Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Cameron Childress
I think I paid $4.27 for 93 Octane today in-own Atlanta -Cameron On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Speaking of fuel.. diesel #2 is over $5 in some places here in So cal. > Drove by one the other day. > > 87 octane is $3.97 at two station

Speaking of fuel

2008-05-15 Thread Jacob
Speaking of fuel.. diesel #2 is over $5 in some places here in So cal. Drove by one the other day. 87 octane is $3.97 at two stations next to my house. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic