Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Cameron Childress
On 6/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > *that* federal agency? Don't you mean all current federal agencies? Amen. -Cameron ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://ww

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Dana
I think investigative reporting is already on the endangered species list in this country and any move that discourages whistleblowers, whether their motives be pure or not, is likely to be a setback for democracy. Dana On 6/27/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jennifer Larkin wr

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Dana
*that* federal agency? Don't you mean all current federal agencies? Dana > expertise in that area. It just so happens that in this case that > federal agency is being run by people who do not have the best > interests of US resident citizens in mind. They much prefer > corporations with money. >

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jennifer Larkin wrote: > > The Bill of Rights has been interpreted to allow reporters > to hide their sources. It's not really a guaranteed right. In this > case, the person being hidden is pretty much legally defined as a > traitor and the reporters who published the information have clearly > col

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Jennifer Larkin
I'm under the impression that prisoners aren't allowed to vote. We aren't talking about a constitutional guarantee of a right and even some of those rights are taken away if you are guilty of a crime. "Freedom of the press" doesn't mean "to do whatever the heck they want." They do get in trouble

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Yea, I misread the article -- I thought they'd made the opposite ruling. > That's it exactly, you cannot have selective rights based > on the person. Its the same basic philosophy with the ACLU > - you have to protect the rights of everyone, even obnoxious > or offensive types like the KKK or neo-

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
That's it exactly, you cannot have selective rights based on the person. Its the same basic philosophy with the ACLU - you have to protect the rights of everyone, even obnoxious or offensive types like the KKK or neo-Nazis. larry On 6/27/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay that

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Okay that sucks... I understand conceptually that they perceive the reporters are protecting people who are "in the wrong", but if you don't let them protect "the bad guys", then "good guys" will never come to them with important information. > The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of the t

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
The Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal of the two reporters, upholding the rulings of lower courts. In other words allowing coercive measures, ie., jail time for 18 months and longer or massive fines, if the reporters refuse to coooperate by revealing their sources: http://www.cnn.com/2005/L

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Jennifer Larkin
It say the court rejected the appeal of the reporters. I'm not sure if the appeal applied to people who committed a crime by speaking to the reporters about this or if this applies more broadly. I'm hoping that they saw this as an exceptional case, which is well within the bounds of reason. In th

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I thought the ruling was that reporters were allowed to protect their sources? Did I misread the article? > Consider this situation, lets say the CIA is involved with > torturing > american citizens (its an example), and someone who > objects to this > violation tells a reporter. He also tells the

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Consider this situation, lets say the CIA is involved with torturing american citizens (its an example), and someone who objects to this violation tells a reporter. He also tells them that if exposed it may at least mean jail time for him if not his life. So the reporter writes up the story and th

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Personally I agree with the ruling about journalists ability to protect their sources... though the cable ruling kinda sucks. Didn't read much past that... or don't remember what it was. :P > Half and half. The other rulings, involving journalists > and sources, > and cable isp's not including oth

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Ben Doom
I was responding specifically to the 10C issue. It's one more step towards getting them out of KY schools! --Ben Larry C. Lyons wrote: > Half and half. The other rulings, involving journalists and sources, > and cable isp's not including other isp's, are not so good. > > larry ~~~

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Half and half. The other rulings, involving journalists and sources, and cable isp's not including other isp's, are not so good. larry On 6/27/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gruss Gott wrote: > > High Court Bars Display > > Of Ten Commandments > > > > A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Adam Haskell
Can we get a new monetary system too while we're at it. Or could we make it in God(s) we trust for those which may have more than one God they trust in? Adam H On 6/27/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > High Court Bars Display > Of Ten Commandments > > A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS

Re: Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Ben Doom
Gruss Gott wrote: > High Court Bars Display > Of Ten Commandments > > A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP > June 27, 2005 10:26 a.m. > > WASHINGTON -- A split Supreme Court struck down Ten Commandments > displays in courthouses Monday, ruling that two exhibits in Kentucky > cross the line b

Supreme Court Strikes 10 Commandments

2005-06-27 Thread Gruss Gott
High Court Bars Display Of Ten Commandments A WALL STREET JOURNAL ONLINE NEWS ROUNDUP June 27, 2005 10:26 a.m. WASHINGTON -- A split Supreme Court struck down Ten Commandments displays in courthouses Monday, ruling that two exhibits in Kentucky cross the line between separation of church and stat