I sure am glad you are here to tell us what everyone knows. Otherwise
we might just get side tracked with real details rather than the slant
that one side or the other might want the general population to
believe. Because we all know that political leaders (Western, middle
Eastern, or otherwi
Well the end result is that the UK gets their troops back. Frankly I could
care less under what circumstances they were returned, as long as they are
returned. The only ones who will probably really care are the middle eastern
folks anyway. Everyone from western nations knows that Iran was wrong.
> Does this crap on the CNN homepage not piss off anyone else? Iran's
> president "pardoned" the soldiers.. oh come on!!! This is pathetic!
Tying in the URL Dana posted in another thread, the first two
paragraphs sent me into a tizzy:
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he has pardoned and
warfare stuff, weapons stuff, uniform stuff) also the legal side,
> > conventions and treaties I mean the list of crap you have to learn goes
> > on and on.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 0
I mean the list of crap you have to learn goes
> on and on.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:51 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
>
> What Private has read tha
t: Re: UK's troops being seized..
What Private has read that manual? I was talking about the practical,
tactical intel a Private knows. That is stuff the bad guys could really
use. When I was driving I got regular movement briefings for the entire
battalion with Top. He needed the informat
What Private has read that manual? I was talking about the practical, tactical
intel a Private knows. That is stuff the bad guys could really use. When I
was driving I got regular movement briefings for the entire battalion with Top.
He needed the information, so by extension I needed it too
That's like the show I was watching on the Military channel the other
day. They had an interrogation specialist, hiding his face because he
had done undercover work in Iraq as well as interrogation work talking
about how they will mislead a prisoner into thinking they will get to
see family, b
ommunity
> Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
>
> These manuals are merely guidelines, a place to start when making unit
> SOP's. I used these very manuals and others to help develop our unit's
> SOP's
> and once we got into country we had to make changes
7-8 is more important anyway :)
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:07 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
These manuals are merely guidelines, a place to start when making unit
SOP's. I used
il 03, 2007 1:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
Standard tactical stuff is meaningless. How much of that is standard
SOP stuff in books that anyone can buy at Amazon or Ebay?
Ebay $15.00
The Infantry Battalion - Army Manual FM 7-20
*Contents:* This book is A
27;re missing anyway.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:49 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
But how valuable is any of that considering there are others ways of
getting the info. I can
These manuals are merely guidelines, a place to start when making unit
SOP's. I used these very manuals and others to help develop our unit's SOP's
and once we got into country we had to make changes to them on a regular
basis because as we developed strategies to counter the enemy, they
countered
If your base is constructed properly, there should not be a way that the
enemy can see inside. Now of course there is the spy element. As I stated in
an earlier post on a different subject, hundreds of LN's walk in and out of
the bases every day to perform what we call the shit work. I am quite sur
drills and such.
>
-Original Message-
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
>
> When I was a Private I was RTO and then driver for the 1SG. I knew the
> r
s and TTPs and that's enough
> to get your unit in a bunch of trouble when they take contact.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 1:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized.
But how valuable is any of that considering there are others ways of
getting the info. I can sit back a mile away and tell you where the
fuel depo is, so is it worth being tortured over? The guy I saw thought
it wasn't worth it. There is value in all intel. However, most basic
intel can be h
07 1:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
When I was a Private I was RTO and then driver for the 1SG. I knew the
radio frequencies and guardpost passwords and as the driver I knew
movement orders about 3 hours before the rest of the unit. Those are
tactical pieces
Well I certainly did not mean that every soldier is "Spartacus" or (from
> what I assume by your comment) THE unit commander or THE unit. And if I am
> wrong in the interpretation of your comment, I apologize. I was answering
> the question. Yes not everyone knows a lot, but there are a few who do
When I was a Private I was RTO and then driver for the 1SG. I knew the radio
frequencies and guardpost passwords and as the driver I knew movement orders
about 3 hours before the rest of the unit. Those are tactical pieces of
intelligence that an enemy could use. I have no illusions I could l
> Among other things, there are privates and other lower ranking soldiers who
> work in the operations center (that is my current job in the Guard,
> assistant operations sergeant). There are things that go on in that room
> that the enemy would love to get their hands on. And folks in the ops cent
Among other things, there are privates and other lower ranking soldiers who
work in the operations center (that is my current job in the Guard,
assistant operations sergeant). There are things that go on in that room
that the enemy would love to get their hands on. And folks in the ops center
do go
I spent six years in the Marines for the most part you don't know
anything that can't be found on the Internet. Troop strength? Units?
SOPs? Modus Operandi? Names of Leaders? Tactical plans? There are some
exceptions but for the most part nothing worth being tortured over.
Any real plans, espe
You would be surprised at how much information an Private knows.
Bruce
On 4/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ..The philosophy being that the average Soldier, Sailor, Marine, or
> Airman
> doesn't know anything critical and will eventually break if the captors
> want them
02, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UK's troops being seized..
>
> Reuters has eye witnesses placing them in Iraqi waters.
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL24273137
>
> Look, I don't know what the British train sailors and Marines to do
decide to pass this one up?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Heald, Timothy J
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 1:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UK's troops being seized..
>
> Reuters has eye witnesses placing them in Iraqi waters.
>
> http://www.reuters.c
You guys just decide to pass this one up?
-Original Message-
From: Heald, Timothy J
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 1:05 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: UK's troops being seized..
Reuters has eye witnesses placing them in Iraqi waters.
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestC
>I'm confused with the ease at which the sailors are admitting that
>they were in Iranian waters. I could see one, or two giving in, but
>surely not all of them. I'm assuming the Iranians wouldn't be
>torturing them, but then again I could be wrong.
You would be assuming wrong, for instance:
ht
British Sailors Captured: Day 1:
"it reminds me of the USS Pueblo, Gary Powers," or Monica Lewinski, Deny
Everything, Deny Everything. You still have the dress? wtf. You have
Gary Powers in custody? wtf? The USS Pueblo was just patrolling South
Korean waters, it is not a spy boat and it was no
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To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
I'm confused with the ease at which the sailors are admitting that
they were in Iranian waters. I could see one, or two giving in, but
surely not all of them. I'm ass
The Iranians claim that all of them have now confessed to being in Iranian
waters.
> -Original Message-
> From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 12:46 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
>
>
I'm confused with the ease at which the sailors are admitting that
they were in Iranian waters. I could see one, or two giving in, but
surely not all of them. I'm assuming the Iranians wouldn't be
torturing them, but then again I could be wrong.
Still, it's not a far stretch to think the Brits w
The Iranians have backed themselves into a corner and they are trying to
find a way to get out of it and save face at the same time. The EU has
backed the British position, the UN has backed the British position
(although they declined to state for the record that the British sailors
were in Iraqi
welp so much for hopefully. The Iranians maintain that they were in Iranian
waters and the British that they were not...
> ::shrug:: I'm thinking it's a musunderstanding. My first thought was
> why are they doing a "routine boarding" in Iranian waters, which was
> probably why they were seized.
serious, ya know.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 7:46 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
>
>always hap
yer kidding, right?
<=== must not forget the emoticon.
> I thought he got it fairly accurate with me. I've vaguely heard
> about
> this but, yeah, it's probably Bush's fault; although I don't want to
> let Cheney off the hook just yet.
> Greg wrote:
> I'm loose ;) but you did bring me into it. If you're going to channel me,
> please do it accurately.
>
I thought he got it fairly accurate with me. I've vaguely heard about
this but, yeah, it's probably Bush's fault; although I don't want to
let Cheney off the hook just yet.
~~~
in his sick twisted mind, do you think
ahmadinejad has purposefully done this
so that he can keep britain interested
as they started to back off of this whole middle
east thing recently?
tw
On 3/23/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And now the President of Iran has canceled his schedul
And now the President of Iran has canceled his scheduled trip to the UN,
claiming that the US did not issue visas for the flight crew of his plane.
The State Dept says all visa requests have been processed.
This kind of behavior is typical of paranoid dictatorships like Iran. They
need to get thei
On 3/23/07, Greg M wrote:
> Yep and I laughed my ass off, and at your expense. I don't care about
> you or if you laughed.
Well you DID lump 'er in with Gruss, ya know. :-)
Using my powers of ESP I sense you DO care...
LOL. Sorry, don't let me break this up, I kinda laughed at the cross
thread
-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
always happy to provide amusement to the very small
>Yep and I laughed my ass off, and at your expense. I don't care about
>you or if you laughed.
>
>On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <
always happy to provide amusement to the very small
>Yep and I laughed my ass off, and at your expense. I don't care about
>you or if you laughed.
>
>On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
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>I think this is the group that works with the US, and a few other countries.
>Each one has a sector of the Arabian Sea and Persian gulf.
>
>I doubt it was spec ops, just the daily ship searches. I can't remember how
>many those guys do in a day, but it can be several.
According to the BBC the RM
Yep and I laughed my ass off, and at your expense. I don't care about
you or if you laughed.
On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> was it? That one was even smaller. You're shrinking, Greg
>
> >Just like you, always trying to get the last word in.. if anyone
> >doesn't see your
was it? That one was even smaller. You're shrinking, Greg
>Just like you, always trying to get the last word in.. if anyone
>doesn't see your point or argues with you, they are wrong.. thats BS..
>You need to have someone, and you'll probably have to pay for it, but
>have someone knock those c
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> From: Heald, Timothy J [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:41 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UK's troops being seized..
>
> Small boat raids and the Brits you're either talking about the SBS or
> the Royal Marines. That means t
Just like you, always trying to get the last word in.. if anyone
doesn't see your point or argues with you, they are wrong.. thats BS..
You need to have someone, and you'll probably have to pay for it, but
have someone knock those cobwebs off.. maybe then you'll lighten up..
Now that was funny.. he
I'm eating it while I watch :)
-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
and I had Chinese yesterday.. good thing I'm not a cat person..
On 3/23/07, Pau
etimes do "rouge" ops. I know Iranians crossed into Afghanistan
several times.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:18 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized..
USS Pueblo is the first th
I got it, little one... it was just too small too even laugh at ;)
>You're not even worth it Dana.. The bottom line is you couldn't get
>the joke, I'm going to leave it at that...
>
>On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
~~
You're not even worth it Dana.. The bottom line is you couldn't get
the joke, I'm going to leave it at that...
On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is that what it was? it's so small it's hard to tell ;)
>
> I'm sure that one's over your head too.
>
> ::shrug;:
>
> >umm it was ac
is that what it was? it's so small it's hard to tell ;)
I'm sure that one's over your head too.
::shrug;:
>umm it was accurate.. I expected you to read it and perhaps chuckle..
>Oh well.. I guess lack of a sense of humor will do that to you, aye?
>
>On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
and I had Chinese yesterday.. good thing I'm not a cat person..
On 3/23/07, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> friday humor for you
> http://jflores.com/jokes/chowmein.htm
>
>
>
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USS Pueblo is the first thing that comes to mind.
I do find this comment a little interesting.
"British naval officials said the sailors, using small boarding craft,
had completed an inspection of a merchant vessel in Iraqi waters when
the Iranians arrived. "
This could be legit, or it could
friday humor for you
http://jflores.com/jokes/chowmein.htm
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umm it was accurate.. I expected you to read it and perhaps chuckle..
Oh well.. I guess lack of a sense of humor will do that to you, aye?
On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm loose ;) but you did bring me into it. If you're going to channel me,
> please do it accurately.
>
>
I'm loose ;) but you did bring me into it. If you're going to channel me,
please do it accurately.
> It was more or less a joke... it's Friday, which should have been
> evident with the "Dave blaming Microsoft" bit.. loosen up
>
> On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm just
It was more or less a joke... it's Friday, which should have been
evident with the "Dave blaming Microsoft" bit.. loosen up
On 3/23/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just getting here. But why would it be Bush's fault? Except perhaps for
> being dumb enough to start this stuff..
>
We
make a lot more noise than they do, but they can certainly hold their
own.
-Original Message-
From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:41 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: UK's troops being seized..
Surprised no one has started a discussion on
::shrug:: I'm thinking it's a musunderstanding. My first thought was why are
they doing a "routine boarding" in Iranian waters, which was probably why they
were seized. THe Navy captain was ill-informed.
The captain of the ship, or whatever his rank is, whill find out he was wrong
and that Tehr
I'm just getting here. But why would it be Bush's fault? Except perhaps for
being dumb enough to start this stuff..
>Surprised no one has started a discussion on it..
>Gruss and Dana blaming Bush, Dave blaming Microsoft, etc..
>
>http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html
~
I am just waiting to see what the UK is going to do. We know that they to
not take shit from anyone.
Bruce
On 3/23/07, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Surprised no one has started a discussion on it..
> Gruss and Dana blaming Bush, Dave blaming Microsoft, etc..
>
> http://www.cnn.com/
Surprised no one has started a discussion on it..
Gruss and Dana blaming Bush, Dave blaming Microsoft, etc..
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/23/iran.uk/index.html
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