Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > You're evading again. Evading what? Your subjective opinon? No, I'm addressing it head on. I have no problem with any american citizen travelling abroad. If an American does travel abroad, I have no problem with them holding a rally that gets non-americans to dye their hair red,

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread sam morris
You’re evading again. How do you defend someone holding a campaign rally in a foreign country talking down American saying while saying nothing, but that nothing will fix the world? It is Disney. > In principle he has yes. > > Don't you think there's a difference between a candidate saying h

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > So he didn't say as president he would draw down troops in Iraq and send them > to Afghanistan? Talk to Iran without preconditions? In principle he has yes. Don't you think there's a difference between a candidate saying he'd do something and a President?

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread sam morris
So he didn't say as president he would draw down troops in Iraq and send them to Afghanistan? Talk to Iran without preconditions? So if all he can say is a giant group hug will create world peace I guess I will have to trust he knows what he's talking about. >As a candidate, you can only speak

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Whaaat? > Are you OD'ing on Kool-aid? > Reality doesn't matter because he's not president yet? > As a candidate, you can only speak in principle because you're not president and thus can effect no policy change. It's like going to an interview for a developer position and thinking

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread sam morris
Whaaat? Are you OD'ing on Kool-aid? Reality doesn't matter because he's not president yet? >That's having been said, his analysis this week - while consistent >with his support for McCain - misses one oppressively large detail: >Obama is not a President. > >You cannot compare a non-president to a

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Now his conservative supporter says he jumped the shark: > I'm a big fan of Brooks and listen to him on PBS every week, as well as read his column. I certainly wouldn't say he's a "conservative supporter". I've heard him argue against Obama, and in favor of McCain, every week for

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread sam morris
>your missing my point... > >so, does that require on the job experience... i do not think so. You shouldn't be allowed to vote:) >rest of the country knows, shit, hundreds of thousands of germans >know, and im sure >many more in many other countries, and when they can see that they >have some so

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > I meant you can thank GWB for the American people's current infatuation with > a candidate who can speak clearly. > If we built the perfect candidate, they'd have all of the following qualities: * Well spoken: such that he can align, focus, and inspire people and nations behind

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Larry Lyons
And that should have been a warning about the shrub, he did a good job of fecking up parts of Texas that's still trying to recover, education for instance. > >Hmmm... interesting argument; you would rather have a figurehead >president that needs the gravitas of his cabinet and potential veep. >

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Tony
your missing my point... i believe whole heartedly that with technology, and charisma and his ability to win NATIONS of people over, not just ours that he has the power to change things in a positive manner unlike the cavalier fuck nut shrub we CANNOT GO ANY FARTHER DOWN the international tube

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread G Money
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I can thank GWB for Obama's lack of understanding what he's saying? > > No, I don't think that's what you meant; you mean that we can look at > GWB as another example of that. > Wrong on both counts. I meant you can

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> I think the critique, mine in particular, is more at these people that >> are fawning over how great of a speaker he is and how his ability to >> deliver a prepared speech makes him more qualified to be a good >> President. For all we know the man may not understand half of what >> he's saying.

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread G Money
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:52 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > I think the critique, mine in particular, is more at these people that > are fawning over how great of a speaker he is and how his ability to > deliver a prepared speech makes him more qualified to be a good > Presiden

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> apparent he was the presumptive nominee... WOW, no looking down, > nothing... impressive! It's called a teleprompter, they're placed so a presenter can look out without looking down. > again, i dont care about what HE KNOWS... he has cabinet, he has a > congress, he has the population > of the

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Jerry Johnson
Someone started their weekend a little early LOL On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... we simply need him to be a bearer > of olive branches and hope > for the future of the world... since we are no longer an island that > is autonomous... we are a world tha

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread Tony
the pauses cared me a couple months ago... then i listened to his speech when it became apparent he was the presumptive nominee... WOW, no looking down, nothing... impressive! the mccain quirks are smarmy like bush quirks and smirks... weird, old, technologically illiterate, out of touch with soci

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
>> > He really is a magnificent speaker. >> >> Only for prepared speeches - if he's going off the cuff he's got more >> of a verbal pause problem than I do! > > The far right is getting pretty desperate. I think the critique, mine in particular, is more at these people that are fawning over how gr

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread G Money
Yeah, Rush Limbaugh was "critiquing" one of his speeches yesterday, and instead of focusing on WHAT he was saying, he focused on HOW he was saying it. The far right is getting pretty desperate. On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:31 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > He really is a magni

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> He really is a magnificent speaker. Only for prepared speeches - if he's going off the cuff he's got more of a verbal pause problem than I do! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to da

Re: What A Speech

2008-07-25 Thread G Money
Was nodding off to sleep last night, thumbing through the channels, not watching anything, getting ready to turn the TV off, when I came across Obama speaking. I watched the whole thing. He really is a magnificent speaker. On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

What A Speech

2008-07-24 Thread Gruss Gott
If you haven't seen it, it's here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/24/obama-in-berlin-video-of_n_114771.html 200,000 Germans waving American flags and dyed red, white, and blue hair can not be a bad thing. ~| Adobe® ColdFu