Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-25 Thread Robert Munn
Sure. McVeigh hoped to start an insurrection against the federal government. These idiots down in Miami hoepd to kill as many "devils" as possible. I don't know what their political motives were, maybe we will find out about that soon enough. But they pledged alleigance to Al Qaeda, which means tha

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-25 Thread Dana Tierney
are you talking about in my eyes or in the eyes of the law? Cause apparently, if Scott is correct, blowing up an abortion clinic is just fine. >There is no fine line. You plot to blow up a building and kill innocent >people, you are a terrorist. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, for example. >Domest

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-25 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > There is no fine line. You plot to blow up a building and kill innocent > people, you are a terrorist. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, for example. > Domestic terrorists was the label given to them. > I'm picking knits, but don't you have to have a political agenda as well? That

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-25 Thread Robert Munn
There is no fine line. You plot to blow up a building and kill innocent people, you are a terrorist. Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols, for example. Domestic terrorists was the label given to them. On 6/24/06, Dana wrote: > > the Florida group didn't have any international ties either. Not for want >

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-24 Thread Dana Tierney
just out of curiosity, where in MD was this? I have not seen the story thanks >It was a clinic in Maryland.. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210177 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/thre

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-24 Thread Dana Tierney
the Florida group didn't have any international ties either. Not for want of trying though. I agree that it's a fine line. > Was the man in Maryland being funded by a foreign element? Was he > targetting a single person/family or a mass of random people? Was he > trying to instill fear and doub

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Mike Barnicle just had a good quote. (As well as I can remember it) "While most muslims are clearly not terrorists, most terrorists at the moment are Muslims" ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210156 Arch

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > He was sentenced by a federal judge and is in a federal prison. > Federal pound-you-in-the-ass prison? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_l

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Sam
He was sentenced by a federal judge and is in a federal prison. On 6/23/06, Nick McClure wrote: > Was he charged under federal law or state law? > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210153 Archives: http

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Nick McClure
I'm pretty sure you would get the death penalty for both around here -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 6:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What is terrorism yep! if i kill a few crack whores on my corner, i will get less p

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Nick McClure
Was he charged under federal law or state law? -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:28 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What is terrorism The federal government under the Bush admin tried to get Stephen John Jordi, a white guy, sentenced

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
On 6/23/06, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am talking just about the case in Maryland, and was trying to find > out the rules. > > Does the race/religion of the accused play a significant (or > definining) role in whether something is considered to be terrorism? yes sir. whity walks.

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
I am talking just about the case in Maryland, and was trying to find out the rules. Does the race/religion of the accused play a significant (or definining) role in whether something is considered to be terrorism? Does the intended target play a significant (or defining) role in whether something

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Scott Stewart
5:11 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What is terrorism The question would go to when he was planning on bombing the clinic. Late at night is quite different than on "bring your daughter to work" day. As for the charges, I truly believe that there should be a legal charge of stupidity

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Sam
The federal government under the Bush admin tried to get Stephen John Jordi, a white guy, sentenced for terrorism but the judge refused. These guys in Miami were trying to work with al Qaeda, which made it international. If the Palestinian guy was working on his own he wouldn't be considered a terr

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Wait a minute here. You've altered the parameters. You replaced an abortion clinic, which may be a privatly or state funded location with a national landmark which is on the federal level. Much different case. If a white christian did the same ther would be little argument as well. If you keep t

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
If a Palestinian Muslim man stole guns from his neighbor in Maryland, blew up his neighbor's house, and had concrete plans to blow up a national landmark, would it be terrorism? With very little argument. In this case, the only difference is the possible race/religion of the possible terrorist an

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The question would go to when he was planning on bombing the clinic. Late at night is quite different than on "bring your daughter to work" day. As for the charges, I truly believe that there should be a legal charge of stupidity. >Actually he was targeting a clinic, he had the bomb with him whe

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Scott Stewart
. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 5:00 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: What is terrorism Was the man in Maryland being funded by a foreign element? Was he targetting a single person/family or a mass of random people? Was he

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Was the man in Maryland being funded by a foreign element? Was he targetting a single person/family or a mass of random people? Was he trying to instill fear and doubt in the government's ability to protect their people? Terrorism is an attempt to instill terror. The Florida group was trying to

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Scott Stewart
communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:47 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: What is terrorism Did he plan on blowing up a place

RE: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Nick McClure
Did he plan on blowing up a place within a different state, or was it a clinic in is own state? > -Original Message- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 3:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: What is terrorism > > yes it sho

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Sam
Yes, but you need to convince a judge, not the president. http://www.washblade.com/2004/7-16/news/police/ A Florida man was sentenced on July 8 to five years in federal prison for plotting to fire bomb abortion clinics, churches and gay bars. Stephen John Jordi, 36, pleaded guilty in February to a

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yes, it is also terrorism. But maybe not to Bush? On 6/23/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seven men in Florida busted for trying to engage Al-Queda in a plot to blow > up the Sears tower in Chicago > > http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/060623_batiste_indict.pdf > (ful

Re: What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Paul Ihrig
yes it should but the current admin is against abortion.. go figure. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:210123 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseof

What is terrorism

2006-06-23 Thread Scott Stewart
Seven men in Florida busted for trying to engage Al-Queda in a plot to blow up the Sears tower in Chicago http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/060623_batiste_indict.pdf (full indictment on terrorism charges) Man in Maryland plans to blow up abortion clinic, made bomb steals guns