Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-31 Thread Vivec
Chechen Rebel Leader claims responsibility for bombings. signs his death warrant. http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/31/chechen-rebel-leader-i-ordered-moscow-subway-attack/ ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with somethin

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-30 Thread Medic
Page 3 is a tradition as old as blaming immigrants for all the woes of the world. In fact it's about the only thing, other than lining a bird cage, that the Sun is good for. Too bad over on this side of the pond they make the girls put on bikini's. Shameful really. Not as shameful as the lack of l

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-30 Thread Dana
just saying... you can have it, just don't say the washington post is biased because it doesn't have one ;) On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Medic wrote: > > YOU LEAVE PAGE 3 ALONE > > No caps lock wasn't on by accident. :p > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Dana wrote: > >> >> to try to

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-30 Thread LRS Scout
I'd say when Putin totally raped their constitution and put al his old KGB and organized crime cronies in places of power. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing On Mon

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Topless model? Gotta check that out *snicker* Eric -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing to try to prove bias by showing that newspapers are not doing as the daily mail does

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Medic
YOU LEAVE PAGE 3 ALONE No caps lock wasn't on by accident. :p On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Dana wrote: > > to try to prove bias by showing that newspapers are not doing as the > daily mail does > > ::snicker::: > > you do realize that that's a tabloid with a tradition of a topless

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Dana
to try to prove bias by showing that newspapers are not doing as the daily mail does ::snicker::: you do realize that that's a tabloid with a tradition of a topless model on page 3 that you are holding up as a model of journalism, right? But oh sorry, naturally it's the religion that's the

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
hmm, that actually sounds plausible. objection removed. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Do you remember the uproar in the aftermath of Katrina when several > media outlets showed two AP images, one of a whites labeled survivors, > one of a blacks labeled looters?  My acquaint

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
They killed a terrorist leader at the very beginning of March, so this is probably in retaliation for that. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yes. > Apparently Russian troops have committed countless warcrimes which were > never prosecuted. > > So this is all just revenge then?

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
onsibility yet. You think maybe they haven't called them Muslim because they don't know just yet? Eric -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing I don't care about

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Maureen
Do you remember the uproar in the aftermath of Katrina when several media outlets showed two AP images, one of a whites labeled survivors, one of a blacks labeled looters? My acquaintance at CNN.com removed the word looter from the second photo because the people in that photo had not been vetted

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
I don't care about Islam one way or another, it's just another religion. But CNN is shamelessly avoiding any mention of a significant and relevant element of the story. Let's examine a few other stories covering the topic and see if CNN is the only one that has self-censored the words "muslim" an

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> Muslims blowing up Communists? > > > When did Russia become Communist again? > About the same time Obama became a Marxist, I think. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Dana
they apparently said they won? On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Yes. > Apparently Russian troops have committed countless warcrimes which were > never prosecuted. > > So this is all just revenge then? > > Russia was supposed to have pulled out early last year, after announcing a

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Dana
Interviews with (separate) officials on the ground over there: 1) identification based on characteristics of bomber (not sure what that means) 2) One bomb partially unexploded, clear signs of chechnyan origin fwiw source: BBC world news, KUSP On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jerry Johnson wr

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Dana
shrug, just listened to a BBC analysis that mentioned all sorts of factors, political, economic, social. I think Muslim may have been mentioned but it seems to have been very much more than an "islamofascists are out to get us" type of attack. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Robert Munn wrote:

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Vivec
Yes. Apparently Russian troops have committed countless warcrimes which were never prosecuted. So this is all just revenge then? Russia was supposed to have pulled out early last year, after announcing an end to Counter Terrorism operations in Chechnya.

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-487798.html Eric -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing Another footnote on the centuries old war between Christianity and Islam. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
BTW, loved this quote: Russia's envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, urged journalists on Monday not to call the metro bombers "shahids" because this might provoke sectarian violence. "They are in no sense shahids," he said, Itar-Tass reported.

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
lol -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:57 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing > > Muslims blowing up Communists? When did Russia become Communist

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Bombers still didn't label themselves at all. The investigation is ongoing. There is much supposition, which is very likely to prove out, that the 2 women were members of the "Black Widows". Once it is, then the news writers should feel free to label away. Or once the investigation stalls, and h

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Vivec
Another footnote on the centuries old war between Christianity and Islam. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/29/russia.subway.chechnya.timeline/index.html Chechnya moved to secede from Russia in 1991. What the timeline does not state, is after the peace accord, what prompted the resurge

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Medic
> > Muslims blowing up Communists? When did Russia become Communist again? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffus

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Maureen
Militia clearly labeled themselves as Christian. Bombers labeled themselves as Chechen rebels. CNN is not going to label anyone without vetting the source, but will call groups by whatever label they use to self-identify. The person responsible for what gets posted on CNN.COM has no bias, but i

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It was his tripping out about the fact that CNN didn't say anything about > them being Muslim (which has little to do with the situation) and his avowed > hatred of Islam, which makes him a bigot.  The fact that this was done by > Chechen r

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
0 Subject: Re: moscow bombing you'se my doggg NIGGA! ahahahh On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Timothy Heald wrote: > > Youse my nigga dawg :) > > Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T > > -Original message- > From: Ras Tafari > To: cf-community

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Ras Tafari
010 20:24:44 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: moscow bombing > > > i love my peoples. > > even tho they fight, when someone knocks one of us down, the others > are RIGHT fucking there. > > b000yahhh! > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Timothy Heald wrote: >> >&g

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
Mother fraker sounds like the damn thought police. E money go read anthem by Ayn Rand. Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T -Original message- From: Ras Tafari To: cf-community Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 20:24:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: moscow bombing i love my peoples.

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
Youse my nigga dawg :) Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T -Original message- From: Ras Tafari To: cf-community Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 20:24:44 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: moscow bombing i love my peoples. even tho they fight, when someone knocks one of us down, the others

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Ras Tafari
t from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T > > -Original message- > From: Eric Roberts > To: cf-community > Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 20:10:46 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RE: moscow bombing > > > It was his tripping out about the fact that CNN didn't say anything ab

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
Uh there it is Fascist? Really? Know much about the ideology? Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T -Original message- From: Eric Roberts To: cf-community Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 20:10:46 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: moscow bombing It was his tripping out about the fact that

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
tters in his email. Then his only response was to call me a moron. Sounds pretty fascist to me. Eric -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing Wait a minute Eric. I don't n

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:31 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: moscow bombing > > > moron > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Eric Robe

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
unity Subject: Re: moscow bombing moron On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...his obvious bigotry and hatred of Islam... > > Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something th

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Bigotry is not only about race... -Original Message- From: Timothy Heald [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:38 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: moscow bombing I hate islam. Make no qualms about it. I hate most organized religion. Religion != race No

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Depends on if you live in Chechnia or Moscow ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing Many of the so-called Chechen "freedom fighters" are nothing but common

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread LRS Scout
Seriously, Or Apologist Or Traitor You know -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 2:31 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing moron On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...his o

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
moron On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Yes...his obvious bigotry and hatred of Islam... > > Eric ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
> > -Original message- > From: Eric Roberts > To: cf-community > Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 16:28:33 GMT+00:00 > Subject: RE: moscow bombing > > > Chechens are fighting for their independence from Russia and Russia refuses > to let them go and has comm

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
You mean like the south did? Funny I thought we called that treason and sedition. Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T -Original message- From: Eric Roberts To: cf-community Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 16:28:33 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: moscow bombing Chechens are fighting

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Timothy Heald
I hate islam. Make no qualms about it. I hate most organized religion. Religion != race No bigotry involved Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T -Original message- From: Eric Roberts To: cf-community Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 16:35:33 GMT+00:00 Subject: RE: moscow bom

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread G Money
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Many of the so-called Chechen "freedom fighters" are nothing but common > terrorists by anyone's definition. > > Much like the Munich terrorists permanently stained the Palestinian cause, > Beslan showed us all we need to know about the

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Many of the so-called Chechen "freedom fighters" are nothing but common terrorists by anyone's definition. Much like the Munich terrorists permanently stained the Palestinian cause, Beslan showed us all we need to know about the Chechen freedom fighters. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Eric

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Yes...his obvious bigotry and hatred of Islam... Eric -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:25 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing The Chechen rebels have Islamic roots, certainly, but what about all the other

RE: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
: Monday, March 29, 2010 9:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: moscow bombing That is not good reporting, it is sh!t reporting. They talk about the Chechen conflict but fail to note that Chechen rebels have Islamic fundamentalist elements at their roots. Context, anyone? On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
Going into the religion or motivation of the bombers, with only onsite SPECULATION that they were Chechen in the first place would be irresponsible. Over the next few hours, as actual FACTS are discovered and reported, then such clarifications might make sense. But to lay out a history of the Ch

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
The Chechen rebels have Islamic roots, certainly, but what about all the other places that have broken away/tried to break away from Russia since the collapse of the USSR? Is there something about Chechen that makes it especially relevant to mention that it is Muslim versus, say, South Ossetia whi

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
That is not good reporting, it is sh!t reporting. They talk about the Chechen conflict but fail to note that Chechen rebels have Islamic fundamentalist elements at their roots. Context, anyone? On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > LOL. > > That is called _good reporting_! >

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> I also doubt they will take the "female" away and replace it with "Muslim". > Muslim suicide bomber=yawn. Female Muslim suicide bomber=common. Female > suicide bomber leaves room for it to be interesting or unique, and so will > generate more views from casual readers. > > How sad is it that I c

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
LOL. That is called _good reporting_! It may be hard to recognize in this day and age, but the reporters should _never_ get ahead of the facts. Speculation about the religion of the bombers, before they know who they are, is not the way it should be done. Even the "North Chechen" identificatio

Re: moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Moscow commuter trains were bombed in the morning, killing and wounding > dozens. > > http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/29/russia.subway.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1 > > Funny that in the CNN story there is not a single mention of Islam or > the belief that the suicide bombers were female

moscow bombing

2010-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
Moscow commuter trains were bombed in the morning, killing and wounding dozens. http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/03/29/russia.subway.explosion/index.html?hpt=T1 Funny that in the CNN story there is not a single mention of Islam or the belief that the suicide bombers were female Muslim terror