Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread denstar
I posit that there is a master plan, that is too awesome for our puny brainboxes to comprehend, and that it's "all good". Whatever will be, will be, and therefore was meant to happen. Even if it wasn't meant to happen until it happened. That makes things pretty easy. =) Nature and nurture are

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread morchella
i so wish i had a phone to read this stuff at werk. truly an amazing group of humans on this list. i am afraid i will pass on my VERY dark view of the future to my daughter. but also my wildly passionate view of the good that is opportune in all things. just hope she is not as bat shit crazy as i

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not really, I tend to follow Epicurus' teaching more. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus). Its very akin to Stocism. The Vulcan path is for wimps. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Are you sure you're not a Vulcan ? :) > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Larry C. L

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Scott Stewart
Are you sure you're not a Vulcan ? :) On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I prefer Stocism myself as a school of philosophy > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I prefer Stocism myself as a school of philosophy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:31 PM, denstar wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: >> >> cynicism can be healthy. > > It's cool and all, but seems pretty hard core to me: > > http://en.wi

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread denstar
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > cynicism can be healthy. It's cool and all, but seems pretty hard core to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynicism ;-) > misanthopism or pessimism can be unhealthy. > > although they are similar, they are not the same. I think critical

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Judah McAuley
As far as my almost 4 year old (how the hell did that happen, btw?) daughter goes, I try to teach her about consequences for her actions but most everything else is unconditional love, support for her choices, lots of telling her with no reservations how awesome she is and what a wonderful place t

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
cynicism can be healthy. misanthopism or pessimism can be unhealthy. although they are similar, they are not the same. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:01 PM, denstar wrote: > > It's a fine line to walk. > > My dad prefaced a lot of his stories with, "I probably shouldn't be > telling you this...",

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread denstar
It's a fine line to walk. My dad prefaced a lot of his stories with, "I probably shouldn't be telling you this...", but I'm grateful he did. It didn't stop me from making some of the same stupid mistakes, and everyone's path in life is different, but it was still helpful. He's a very positive p

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Scott Stewart
That's what were trying to do... I don't want her to become the cynic that I've become It's going to be hard to balance, I don't want her to become jaded and cynical, but at the same time I want her to be street smart On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:05 PM, denstar wrote: > > Kids are probably the r

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread denstar
Kids are probably the reason why, when I have to boil away all the gray and say, "good" or "bad", that I go with "good". People are good. "We" are good. Even the bad is part of the good. Now, one could just as easily turn that around, and say the good is part of the bad, and I think choosing h

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-04 Thread Larry C. Lyons
e end of my rope, she'd > smile as if to say "Daddy I'm happy, it's gonna be OK" > > -Original Message- > From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:47 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: so much crying

RE: so much crying.

2010-10-03 Thread Scott Stewart
Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 3:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: so much crying. I have enjoyed every moment, even if some of the moments haven't been super-cool. Even in the hospital, time and again, I was like, "how freaking l

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-03 Thread denstar
I have enjoyed every moment, even if some of the moments haven't been super-cool. Even in the hospital, time and again, I was like, "how freaking lucky I am". But I can rationalize like crazy, so it's easy for me to think, "it can always be worse". Thus I'm always grateful, even when things suc

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-01 Thread G Money
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I dunno about that. That phase where they decide to test their limits > constantly is the most trying in my opinion. It usually happens between > the time they turn 2 and 4ish. Newborns require a lot of attention, but > a toddler who's learne

RE: so much crying.

2010-10-01 Thread Sisk, Kris
riginal Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:46 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: so much crying. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM, morchella wrote: > > thanks guys. > great advice. > Also...it gets better. The first year with my so

Re: so much crying.

2010-10-01 Thread G Money
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM, morchella wrote: > > thanks guys. > great advice. > Also...it gets better. The first year with my son waswell, it was awful. Since he's turned one, and since he got tubes in his ears (no more ear infections!) it's been fun to be a dad, finally. It will get

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-30 Thread morchella
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Re: so much crying.

2010-09-30 Thread denstar
I think I'm just plain more emotional since having a kid. "Up" made me tear up a bit. That's a bad example, because I've got emotional stuff about being able to have kids going on, but still. All the crying itself didn't bother me so much, I mean, hell, have you *seen* how cute a crying kid ca

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-30 Thread Scott Stewart
I feel ya, we've had one hell of a year, between me working 300 miles away and missing everything to MacKenna being in the hospital. Sometimes you need to just let it out and get rid of it. I see my wife and daughter on the weekends (when I can get down there) and I'm a mess on Sundays when I have

RE: so much crying.

2010-09-30 Thread Sisk, Kris
al Message- From: morchella [mailto:morchella.delici...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:37 PM To: cf-community Subject: so much crying. so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont know if i am starting to get depressed or what. the crying now makes me want to cry. if there is a sapp

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Do you have any hobbies? Or anything at all you enjoy doing by yourself? There are times when my wife can sense my stress levels and basically tells me to go play golf. Golf, for me, has always been 'my thing'. When I am on the golf course, I think of nothing but my next shot. I check all the th

RE: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
sure cooker. If you don’t release the pressure you will explode (and that would be very messy heheh) Eric -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: so much crying. Sounds like emotional over

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread Maureen
Sounds like emotional overload and stress. As others have said, get some rest, take a trip without the kids, find some time for yourself. Sometimes just a walk outside alone will help you clear your head and get some perspective. I had two premmies, and I spend the first years of their lives cry

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread trish simon
If all is well medically, then it's time for a break...get a babysitter and take the weekend off. Have a good time...but, don't make another one. On 9/29/10, morchella wrote: > > so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont know if i am starting to get > depressed or what. the crying now makes me

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Johnson
more than anything, sleep would help. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, morchella wrote: > > so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont know if i am starting to get > depressed or what. the crying now makes me want to cry. > if there is a sappy bit in a movie, i now weep. FOR NO fncking REASON!!

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread Medic
Hell man, with two little girls who enjoy experimenting with destroying daddy's feelings I sometimes long for the time when all they did was cry. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, morchella wrote: > > so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont know if i am starting to get > depressed or what.

Re: so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread denstar
Don't dry your eyes with those menthol kleenex. ;) :Den -- Every church is a stone on the grave of a god-man: it does not want him to rise up again under any circumstances. Friedrich Nietzsche On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 6:36 PM, morchella wrote: > > so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont kno

so much crying.

2010-09-29 Thread morchella
so almost a year of being a dad. and i dont know if i am starting to get depressed or what. the crying now makes me want to cry. if there is a sappy bit in a movie, i now weep. FOR NO fncking REASON i am tired of every one, dogs, bayby, wife crying for no reason... no i dont need counseling.