Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread angry housewife
Sir, One of specialities is working with the SE Asia Firms and from my converstions with them your rate seems to be an anomally since I have had to put out subcontracting bids for other developers to help when I am swamped,most of my replies have been in the $20-30 range. Also Sir you do not ha

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Aaron Rouse
Interesting, $40/hr is really not a ton cheaper than what a lot of U.S. developers will work for. We have paid anywhere from $40-60/hr for CF developers. I personally have worked for anywhere from $30-80/hr, just depended on the job, my schedule, and many other factors. I have had trouble with b

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Rizal Firmansyah
I'm running an offshore ColdFusion developer from Jakarta, that is south east Asia. My company's rate is US$40/man/hour, i think it's not that cheap :) Currently we have 0 customers that won't pay us. Infact, we never ask for down payment cause we're 100% sure that our client will benefit from o

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Vincent Cannady
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Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Vincent Cannady
Here is the problem I face most of the clients I have had recently have not paid me as you may recall the nasty spat online for $150. Well the guy he says I billed 165 hours never paid me for ONE hour of work, the next client I get then promptly pays me for one week but take 20 hours off the nex

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Vincent Cannady
Here is the problem I face most of the clients I have had recently have not paid me as you may recall the nasty spat online for $150. Well the guy he says I billed 165 hours never paid me for ONE hour of work, the next client I get then promptly pays me for one week but take 20 hours off the nex

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-02 Thread Vincent Cannady
Here is the problem I face most of the clients I have had recently have not paid me as you may recall the nasty spat online for $150. Well the guy he says I billed 165 hours never paid me for ONE hour of work, the next client I get then promptly pays me for one week but take 20 hours off the nex

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
Create a filter to automatically delete posts from such a firm. At least then you won't have to deal with that stress. Maureen wrote: > On Feb 1, 2008 6:35 AM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe >> share

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Maureen
On Feb 1, 2008 6:35 AM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe > share your experience with some close friends and family in PRIVATE just to > get it off your chest.. and move on. That's easy to say. But I had a v

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
J W wrote: > Counterpoint #2: Unless you have money for a lawyer and run through small > claims, your more than likely SOL. We need more protection that just trying > to hire a lawyer. How much $$$ do you have to shell out for lawyers to MAKE > a uplholdable contract/agreement. Remember its still

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Aaron West
> After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just > about > ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between > f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems. Why not use the Better Business Bureau? After all, their motto is "Start with Trust." If you have a bad experience with

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
Don't get me mixed up with the original poster. I never said I wanted a website like that. What I did say is there has to be ACCOUNTABILITY for BOTH sides. We need to find a solution for THAT. Jeff On Feb 1, 2008 12:33 PM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Complacency? Not hardly, I'

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
Which is fine. We agree to disagree. Likewise with yours. On Feb 1, 2008 12:15 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've said what I have to say. If you don't agree that's fine with me. > Good luck with your endeavors. > > -Cameron > > J W wrote: > > There still needs to be account

RE: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Complacency? Not hardly, I'm just not willing to jump on one sided complaining and say "Yeah... you go get em!" I also don't care to hear the other side of the argument publicly because it just turns into back-and-forth bickering and makes both sides look stupid to people who weren't involved and d

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
I've said what I have to say. If you don't agree that's fine with me. Good luck with your endeavors. -Cameron J W wrote: > There still needs to be accountability on the company. > > Counterpoint #1: I disagree. How the heck do your make a decision to TRUST > someone that you barely know. Heck

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
There still needs to be accountability on the company. Counterpoint #1: I disagree. How the heck do your make a decision to TRUST someone that you barely know. Heck even if you know them, trust them, they can still burn you. See "Holmes on Homes" for many examples of deception of trust. Different

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
J W wrote: > We can complain when we are burned, or have the attitude that you need to > "learn your lesson and move on". The 6 million dollar question is. How do we > make it right? I would argue that the lessons to be learned have to do with: 1) How you make the decision to work with someone (o

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
In addition to clients, I have quite a few vendors I'd like to go on and on bitching about. Sometimes I find it's good to write this stuff down. And then destroy those words in some manner of your choosing. (Shred them / burn them / whatever ) I think all my problems related back to a co

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
I don't do a whole hell of consultant work but I do on occasion. Complacency like this gets me all fired up though. So the gist I am reading here is: Yeah its OK for companies to BURN you. You should go sulk in a corner, reflect on how it went bad and move on. Try not to let it happen again. No co

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe > share your experience with some close friends and family in PRIVATE just to > get it off your chest.. and move on. +1 I'm trying to get my boss to invest in some laser-tag time for our team after this month's... month

RE: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
ose friends and family in PRIVATE just to get it off your chest.. and move on. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:50 PM To: CF-Jobs-Talk Subject: Re:

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about > ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between > f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems. Why do I recall seeing this thread some time back? ~| Ad

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
> What about the flip-side of that coin ... A site for employers to > review their contracted hire. Why not build both into the site with > the ability to tag them together and to facilitate conflict > resolution? This could be quite the lucritive venture if done > properly. The way I understand i

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
Some of the issues I have encountered in the past is temp tech jobs recruiting for other contractors an the other subcontractor being the worst link in the chain. I started working on a project once with about 50 people and most contractors rapidly dropped off because of harsh treatment with

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Cameron Childress
Sometimes it's best just to learn from your bad experiences and just move on. Spending too much time stewing (in public) can be very counter-productive. -Cameron Joseph Smuzynski wrote: > After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just about > ready to build a new site that

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
Checkbox criteria would definitely make it much better. On Jan 31, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Joseph Smuzynski wrote: > Trevor: > > That's an interesting idea. I'll admit the idea crossed my mind, > but I > quickly dismissed it, because of the name-mentioning necessity. > Since many > consultants

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Joseph Smuzynski
Trevor: That's an interesting idea. I'll admit the idea crossed my mind, but I quickly dismissed it, because of the name-mentioning necessity. Since many consultants are individuals, or their business name is their name, it would end up being finger-pointing. If we could come up with a way to m

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Trevor Cole
What about the flip-side of that coin ... A site for employers to review their contracted hire. Why not build both into the site with the ability to tag them together and to facilitate conflict resolution? This could be quite the lucritive venture if done properly. On 1/31/08, Joseph Smuzynski

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Jeffry Houser
It sounds like a lawsuit trap to me. The only way to keep it factual is if you moderate posts and control what people say. Once you do that, then you are no longer protected under "safe harbor" provisions. All that said, even if you're "in the right" in terms of free speech, that won't p

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Matt Williams
*cough* liability *cough* Seeing as how it is anonymous, companies would come after the site owner for anything they feel is untruthful (you know, the beyond the shadow of a doubt type thing). Be careful trying to recreate a judicial court. On Jan 31, 2008 5:05 PM, Joseph Smuzynski <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-01-31 Thread Justin Edwards
This site sounds like it will take all of your time doing moderation. One of my friends started a similar site but with mechanics. Also you might run into problems with profitableness, because the best advertising/sponsoring could come from someone who might have people on your site who hate t