Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

2017-06-09 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
OK Jonathan, If you're sure I'll trust your 'corporate memory'. In which case Ute's issue is resolved with no need for further new Standard Names, just a change to the definitions of two existing names. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for NEMO ocean model output

2017-06-09 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Sebastien and Alison Sorry to come back to this late, but in view of a more recent discussion, it's occurred to me that we should put mean_sea_level rather than sea_surface_height in these three names. By sea_surface_height we mean its instantaneous level, but when we speak of steric SL chang

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

2017-06-09 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Roy, Chris et al. It's possible that it was intentional, but I would tend to think that it is more like cut-and-paste as Chris says, because in a previous system (and this name is very old, I think) we generated the help text automatically, including certain sentences if certain phrases were

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names under ice velocity of water

2017-06-09 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Chris, My understanding (based on memory not research of the archives) was that this statement was deliberate to allow a single Standard Name to cover a field that is spatial distribution of the velocity of a water body at the point where it is in contact with the atmosphere whether or n

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

2017-06-09 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear James, I'm not sure this is that much different to changing the definition of the current Standard Name to make it 'in-situ specific'. Two new Standard Names would be needed - one for explicit in-situ and one for explicit 25C if backward compatibility is to be maintained. However, as I sa

Re: [CF-metadata] New standard names for NEMO ocean model output

2017-06-09 Thread Sebastien Villaume
Thank you Alison! We (Kevin Marsh and myself) are happy with the amended definitions you proposed. only one minor tweak in the last sentence of the "steric_change_in_sea_surface_height" definition: I would add "_height" at the end of "steric_change_in_sea_surface". I assume it was intended th

Re: [CF-metadata] Sea water pH values: at standard or in-situ conditions?

2017-06-09 Thread James Orr
All ocean modelers report pH at in situ conditions. Some ocean observers report pH corrected to 25°C, but when doing so they often call that pH25. Many ocean observationalists report in situ pH, for example from data collected on buoys or ARGO floats equiped with pH sensors. Would it make sens