Re: OT: Roll out menus

2005-10-27 Thread Stephen Whiteley
Again not free, but basically you can position within tables, also does infinite menus based on adjacency list http://www.xtreeme.com/dhtml/dynamic-creation/ Steve ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based tim

Re: Recursion anyone?

2005-10-27 Thread Stephen Whiteley
Thanks David, I get that:) Steve ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for fre

fullasagoog

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Traher
Hi, Has anyone else noticed that the fullasagoog web service seems to have changed or is it something silly I have done? I have been using http://www.fullasagoog.com/packages/googservice.cfc?wsdlfor some time. This broke a few days ago and checking the site today it is documented as http://www.fu

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
What does SVN give you that VSS does not? -Original Message- From: jonese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 October 2005 17:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Source Control Theory. Hey all, We recently moved from VSS to SVN (please quit with the applause) and while we are "using it" w

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > What does SVN give you that VSS does not? It works everywhere*. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
In what way? As in it is not Windows only? That is hardly a powerful reason... (as I assume they are on Windows now.) -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2005 11:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Source Control Theory. On Thursday 27 October

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Massimo Foti
> What does SVN give you that VSS does not? http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch02s02.html VSS use Lock-Modify-Unlock, SVN can use both Copy-Modify-Merge and Lock-Modify-Unlock. I very much prefer the Copy-Modify-Merge approach, but it's a matter of personal preferences. Multiple languages bind

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Traher
We use CVS (which SVN is based on I believe). SVN fixes some weaknesses of CVS and adds some nice features, but is fundamentaly the same. As mentioned the main difference between VSS and CVS/SVN is that VSS locks files being worked on and the other two by default do not. This makes sense because

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
I have also had some very bad experiences with VSS. Two specific problems that I've had: A developer checked out some code and didn't check it back in before going on holiday. This caused us a lot of headaches because we didn't have the password for his machine and he'd checked out stuff that a l

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Well, logging in as Admin would have solved the first problem of checking in a file checked out by another user (all depends on client/server setup I suppose) - but you can certainly check an on vacation users file yourself. VSS,does support multiple checkouts - so I am not sure where your problem

Re: adApplication.cfm and Application.cfm

2005-10-27 Thread Ryan Guill
What version of cf are you using on the server that is causing the problem, and is it a different version on the two other servers that did not cause a problem? On 10/26/05, Roberto Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 11:31 AM 10/26/2005, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >thats odd. > > > >as

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Andy McShane
I have used VSS virtually from day one and have never yet had any problems with it, not a single corruption. I can confirm that what Neil states below is correct in so far as if you have access to the admin login you can easily checkin/checkout files checked out by another user and have multiple ch

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
ok, I appreciate that you *can* solve the problem if a user isn't there, but here's an example of my typical experience with VSS: Bob, Fred and Joe are all working on the same project and sit within 6 feet of each other. Day starts Bob checks out files a, b, c, d, and e. Fred checks out files f,g

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ok, I appreciate that you *can* solve the problem if a user > isn't there, but here's an example of my typical experience with VSS: Spike, Your scenario is very typical of my experiences as well. I think one of the things a lot of developers don't under

RE: adApplication.cfm and Application.cfm

2005-10-27 Thread kola.oyedeji
I seem to remember this being the case I cant remember if this was on cf5 IIRC not only can you (obviously) not have a page called application.cfm but it could not contain Application in the name, what platform windows or Linux? Kola > -Original Message- > From: Ryan Guill [mailto:[EMAIL

Is this possible

2005-10-27 Thread Kurt Kaptein
I need quick advice on if this is possible. I need to have the users put in a ship date on an ecommerce site The first one will be next Monday which they will set the value them selves - (No problem) The second one if they select it will drop down a calendar where only Mondays are available t

(Admin) CFUnit list

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
At the request of the manager of the CFUnit project (http://sourceforge.net/projects/cfunit) I've set up a CFUnit list on House of Fusion. You can subscribe at: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/subscribe.cfm/forumid:51 and post to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit the project home page at http

RE: About Flex 2

2005-10-27 Thread Hassan Arteaga
Thanks Joe ... Now I have how to start __ M.Sc. Hassan Arteaga Rodríguez Microsoft Certified System Engineer IT Specialist DIGI Grupo de Desarrollo. COPEXTEL, S.A. Este email y sus adjuntos está dirigido solamente a los destinatarios consignados en el mismo y debe ser considerado confidencial.

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 27 October 2005 11:11, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: > In what way? As in it is not Windows only? That is hardly a powerful > reason... (as I assume they are on Windows now.) For me it is a very powerful reason. I shouldn't have my choice of platform and tool set dictated to by the

RE: Is this possible

2005-10-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yes, it is. -Original Message- From: Kurt Kaptein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2005 15:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Is this possible I need quick advice on if this is possible. I need to have the users put in a ship date on an ecommerce site The first one will be next Mon

RE: About Flex 2

2005-10-27 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
If you are MS - you could always just use Atlas ;-) -Original Message- From: Hassan Arteaga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 October 2005 15:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: About Flex 2 Thanks Joe ... Now I have how to start __ M.Sc. Hassan Arteaga Rodríguez Microsoft Certified Syste

Re: OT: Yet another regex question

2005-10-27 Thread Ben Doom
No pressure, though. :-\ --Ben Bobby Hartsfield wrote: > Yeah, I realize he specifically said "or any CF5 solution" now. But as long > as we have you around...no worries in the RegEx department :) > > ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. > Bobby Hartsfield > http://acoderslife.com > > > > ~~~

Re: anti-sp*m email addy hiding techniques

2005-10-27 Thread Larry Lyons
> anyone have any tricks that actually work? besides making it like me > at mysite.com. > I know there is a udf on cflib but like the comment says its really > not a good solution. > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > "Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense > wisdom and abuse a

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread jonese
for us it was even a very simple reason. We lost one developer, hired 2 devlopers and only had vss on one of the machines. Couldn't get VSS to install on the newest developers machine so we had to change process. We had been talking about making the move for months, this was just the straw which

HELP! Cannot Allocate Memory

2005-10-27 Thread Nolan Creese
I am getting an error. Cannot allocate memory. I have looked around and can not find anything CF specific. Any help would be appreciated. CFMX 6.1 Linux - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ~

Re: HELP! Cannot Allocate Memory

2005-10-27 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 10/27/05, Nolan Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am getting an error. Cannot allocate memory. I have looked around and can > not find anything CF specific. Any help would be appreciated. > > CFMX 6.1 > Linux > That's because it's not CF-specific -- it's Java specific. That error means tha

Re: portable SQL queries with date and time values

2005-10-27 Thread wolf2k5
On 8/17/05, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to figure out what is the best way to write SQL queries > including date and time values that will work across several Oracle > Database installations (different versions and different regional > settings). > > So far I am using s

Re: HELP! Cannot Allocate Memory

2005-10-27 Thread Nolan Creese
Thanks Dave I will pass this along to the Host. Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On 10/27/05, Nolan Creese wrote: > I am getting an error. Cannot allocate memory. I have looked around and can > not find anything CF specific. Any help would be appreciated. > > CFMX 6.1 > Linux > That's be

Re: OT: Roll out menus

2005-10-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Thanks everybody, this is some great stuff. We abandoned the roll-out menu a couple of years ago due to the inconsistent behavior in browsers, etc. Looking at some of these, DHTML menus have come a LONG way... Ray Matt Robertson wrote: > An alternative: > > http://javascript.cooldev.com/ >

Re: Is this possible

2005-10-27 Thread Sam Farmer
It sounds like you already have next Monday worked out after that do something like this: #dateAdd("ww",variables.ii,variables.firstMonday)# Cheers, Sam On 10/27/05, Kurt Kaptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I need quick advice on if this is possible. > > I need to have the users put in a

RE: portable SQL queries with date and time values

2005-10-27 Thread Kerry
dont know about best practice, but to ensure date portability I dont use date fields in the DB, I use varchar fields and put ISO dates in them e.g. 20051027T161420 Then if needed, I convert to proper dates once the value is out of the DB. Since I know the string will alway be in the same format,

Re: Is this possible

2005-10-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Anything is possibleand this sure falls into that category ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Douglas Knudsen
we recently chose BUTT over ASS for our SCM solution. BUTT, or Brave User Text Tracker, worked fine and had the same cardinality on the set of issues experienced as ASS, or Applied Source Solutions. Both tools possessed a rather large outflow of community support, unfortunately ASS had that propr

Re: MX7 J2EE (Was MX7 and Flex recommendations)

2005-10-27 Thread Ali Awan
Thanks, Dave, Doug, Adrock I've been afraid of the J2EE version, but now I'm really excited. Thanks for clearing everything up and getting me pointed in the right direction. I'm looking forward to playing with it this weekend. Cheers, Ali >No, setting multiple instances up with IIS is relativel

RE: OT: Yet another regex question

2005-10-27 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
"With great power comes great responsibility" :^p ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: Yet another regex question No pres

Re: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Spike
One of the main reasons I use Eclipse and started on the CFEclipse project is that Eclipse is bar none the best CVS client I've ever seen. In my experience, no matter how I shuffle things around, rename files, delete directories, whatever, it seems to seamlessly keep track of every single change a

CFMX 6.0 Verity and Spider

2005-10-27 Thread Vance M. Duke
I am working through a problem and I do not have extensive knowledge regarding Verity and the Spider that come with CFMX 6. I did however have this working at one point, but it is now NOT working. Let me recap. I made the necessary change the k2Server.ini file. I have it running as a Service

How would I send an XML file to another server/application?

2005-10-27 Thread Ian Sheridan
I'm sorry that his is such a basic question but frankly I have not had to do this outside of webservices. I will be needing to send an xml document and will need to recieve a responce back also an xml document. What are the mechanics of this action? I am not really sure where to start. CFHTTP? How

RE: How would I send an XML file to another server/application?

2005-10-27 Thread Dawson, Michael
Assuming you are sending to another HTTP server, you can use CFHTTP to "post" a form field that contains the XML information. Then, with the same CFHTTP call, you will receive the reply in the fileContent variable. M!ke -Original Message- From: Ian Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

RE: How would I send an XML file to another server/application?

2005-10-27 Thread Andy Matthews
Here's the code: This particular setup expects a boolean return value. -Original Message- From: Ian Sheridan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How would I send an XML file to another server/application?

CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread Dave Ashworth
Is it possible to use CFDirectory to access a folder on a different server? I have seen examples of accessing a folder by IP but this to me looks to be servers that have mapped network drives - would this be the only way to do this? Thanks Dave ~~

Re: CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
yeah it's got to be accessible from the CF server...so a mapped drive...no go with remote machines Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electrice

Re: CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread John Beynon
i had to do something similar between a windows and solaris box - I wrote a CFC which i exposed as a webservice which returned the recordset returned from a cfdirectory, that might work for you? john. On 10/27/05, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yeah it's got to be accessible from t

Re: CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread Alan Rother
And as a last case scenario, if you don't have CF on the second box, you could use CFFTP to get the directory structure, assuming you can get FTP access at a root level. =] On 10/27/05, John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i had to do something similar between a windows and solaris box - I

RE: CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread Tim Heald
As long as the box you are trying to hit has a share set up you can use an unc path like: \\myBox\c$\myfiles\ Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] ColdFusion Developer Signal Solutions, Inc Work : 202-224-1224 Cell : 703-765-0618 > -Original Message- > From: Dave Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: CFDirectory

2005-10-27 Thread Dawson, Michael
You will also need to run the CF services as an account that has permissions to access that remote location. M!ke -Original Message- From: Tim Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDirectory As long as the box you are tryin

RE: Source Control Theory.....

2005-10-27 Thread Mark A Kruger
Doug, 10 points for creativity - made me laugh. -mk -Original Message- From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Source Control Theory. we recently chose BUTT over ASS for our SCM solution. BUTT, or Brave Use

CFInput Validate

2005-10-27 Thread Dan Cone
So does the validating work in the MX7 cfform with cfinput any more. I am simply trying to use the validate for an integer in the cfinput and it is just ignoreing it and not validating. I have never had trouble with this, but this is new MX7 for me. Did this change or another way to do it??? Dan ~

RE: CFInput Validate

2005-10-27 Thread Burns, John D
Not sure with MX7, but just a thought... If this is HTML output you're talking about and not flash forms, make sure that your site has access to the /CFIDE directory so it can access the javascript that it needs. If /CFIDE is not in your root, you can copy the files there yourself (probably not the

Re: ColdFusion MX7 and Flex Recommendations

2005-10-27 Thread Ali Awan
I guess I was confused because I had downloaded Flex1.5 and was playing with that a little bit before I read all the Flex 2 alpha "hooplah". So I was basically looking for the Flex 2 equivalent of the Flex1.5 server. But there is none yet. As you said, basically you compile the Flex code into a

Re: How would I send an XML file to another server/application?

2005-10-27 Thread Anthony Prato
I had a client who could not figure out how to send and xml post like Andy's example. On my recieving page I put this code to allow them to post as a named form field or an xml post.

Re: portable SQL queries with date and time values

2005-10-27 Thread wolf2k5
On 10/27/05, Kerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dont know about best practice, but to ensure date portability I dont use > date fields in the DB, I use varchar fields and put ISO dates in them e.g. > > 20051027T161420 > > Then if needed, I convert to proper dates once the value is out of the DB. >

RE: About Flex 2

2005-10-27 Thread Hassan Arteaga
Thanks Robertson..but I like MM also ..and I love ColdFusion..believe me Regards __ M.Sc. Hassan Arteaga Rodríguez Microsoft Certified System Engineer IT Specialist DIGI Grupo de Desarrollo. COPEXTEL, S.A. Este email y sus adjuntos está dirigido solamente a los destinatarios consignados en el

Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Hi, all... I've been interested in building web applications that don't require a page refresh for a few years now. First Iooked at Flash...didn't like it a few versions ago...and still don't. Don't want to work with the Flash GUI or learn ActionScript. Now, along comes AJAX...everyone's excite

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
The biggest problem with using frames is concurrency. You can't do more than one thing at a time (unless you have two frames, then it's two things at a time), which can be very troubling. With Flash and JS remoting you can perform multiple concurrent actions, which is very useful. You also get t

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the insights, Barney... Question: Can an inline frame be setup to trigger another iframe when some action is performed that triggers it? Not clear, I know...so...a scenario... Three iframes on a page...click on a link in first frame, second frame responds, and causes third frame to r

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Small
Seems like you're doing more work trying to avoid work. - Matt Small -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications? Thanks for the insight

Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Robert Everland III
Does anyone know if there is a limit to how many items I can put in an IN clause? Bob ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a proj

RE: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Klostermeyer
If you have a subquery within the IN, no, there is no limit. If you specify individual items (1,2,4,2, etc.), I have reached a limit with SQL Server, but I don't recall what it was (well into the 5 figures). A subquery is the best solution. Mike -Original Message- From: Robert Everland

Re: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Aaron Rouse
There is a limit to it, but offhand I do not know what it is. On 10/27/05, Robert Everland III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a limit to how many items I can put in an IN > clause? > > > > Bob > > ~|

Re: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 10/27/05, Robert Everland III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a limit to how many items I can put in an IN > clause? > 1000. Regards, Dave. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's custo

Re: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
1000 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
I'm with Matt. You don't need to hack your way around these problems with proper JS remoting, and I assure you that in the long run, picking up some JS will be a lot less effort, not to mention beneficial for myriad other applications. I'm not one to generally praise the perfection of one languag

Re: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Deanna Schneider
Yes, yes there is. On 10/27/05, Robert Everland III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a limit to how many items I can put in an IN > clause? > > > > Bob > > ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion

Re: Oracle IN limit

2005-10-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> If you have a subquery within the IN, no, there is no limit. Are you sure about that?? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystem

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Andy Matthews
This is possible. You can use javascript to trigger an action from one frame to another. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications? T

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Possibly...but that's definitely not true when it comes to Flash and Actionscript...I've tried working with Flash through the last 3 or 4 versions, including the latest, but I don't like working with the Flash timeline (and I'm familiar with timelines, because I do video editing every day with one,

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> your sanity (and your users' experience) will > be better off if you just stick with standard page-refresh based CF. You may very well be correct...I guess that's what I'm trying to decide. Is this technology right for me to tackle, or should I wait a little longer for it to mature and tools to

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Jim Davis
> On 10/27/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, all... > > > > I've been interested in building web applications that don't require > > a page refresh for a few years now. First Iooked at Flash...didn't > > like it a few versions ago...and still don't. Don't want to work with > >

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Would it be as simple as commands such as "onload...do something" ??? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:14 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > applications? > > >

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread John Dowdell
Rick Faircloth wrote: > I've used them a little, but not a lot, so I'd like some feedback on > what the drawbacks are to building apps using inline frames... In all the AJaX discussion I've seen a lot of "i did that years ago with frames", but I don't recall anyone coming back with reasons how th

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Small
I don't know your programming experience, but if you're a traditional programmer, Javascript is far easier to learn than Flash. I've also done Flash, it's not intuitive for people who think linearly like myself. Flash deals with timelines, Javascript is procedural/OO/not Timeline. It's a terrifi

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Will Tomlinson
I used IFrames in a site and it worked great, but with my situation it was like going into a black hole. Once you go in, you can't come out. Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking applic

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
Well, JS remoting capabilities have been around since the late ninties, so it's hardly new technology. I'm not sure why there's been a sudden upsurge in interest, because it's certainly not a new concept, and has been used all over the place for many years. I think the word AJAX has some subconci

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
Developers using Flash should basically have a one-frame movie with AS in that frame that stops playback and loads their main AS file from disk. That's it. Your designers can build you libraries of symbols and then you dynamically link them in to use them. So it's really very similar to non-Flas

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
>Refresh the hidden frame, then use JavaScript to pass the data to the >main display... seems to work just as well, from what I've seen, and >browser support is a little better (older Moz, etc). Interesting...hadn't even thought about using the hidden frames...I was just think about visible inli

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
The biggest reason is concurrency, but with JS remoting you can also leverage a lot of libraries to make your job easier. Like transparent SOAP packaging for hitting web services, for example. In a client-side UI, your interface almost has to be event driven, or it'll be really cumbersome. That

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> with my situation it was like going into a black hole. > Once you go in, you can't come out. Care to elaborate? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:26 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alter

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> Apologies for getting all philisophical and preachy, but such is life. No...you're absolutely right. I know that AS, JS, and AJAX are outside my "domain", experience, and comfort zone. I come at this not from a programmer for a corporation, where my job may depend on knowing some of this stuff

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Haven't heard of "Zorn"...got a URL? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 4:35 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > applications? > > > Developers using Flash should

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Barney Boisvert
Flex 2. Don't have a URL, but should be easy to find on MM's site. cheers, barneyb On 10/27/05, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Haven't heard of "Zorn"...got a URL? > > Rick > > -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites.

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Munson, Jacob
http://labs.macromedia.com/technologies/flexbuilder2/ > -Original Message- > From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:58 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating > web applications? > > Flex 2. Don't have

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Calvin Ward
Additionally, learning Javascript when in a web appllication world, can only improve your capabilities and employablity -Original Message- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread dave
trust me u dont wanna know about his black hole! you can also use simple cfm like show or hide div's or tables based on conditions ;)~ ~Dave the disruptor~ "Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and abuse at the same time." ---

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Calvin Ward
My first AJAX interaction (which was very simple) took me about 15 minutes to complete from googling the term to implementation. Granted I already have exposure to Javascript, but it is worth it. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Not interested in employability as in "being an employee"... I'm self-employed and plan to stay that way...can never be fired. Does have its drawbacks, but for me it's the only way to go. Rick > -Original Message- > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> you can also use simple cfm > like show or hide div's or tables based on conditions That's mostly what I've been considering lately...working out solutions that involve things that are more easily employed...even if that solution is not quite as effective or "elegant" as AS, JS, and AJAX solutio

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> My first AJAX interaction (which was very simple) took me about 15 minutes > to complete from googling the term to implementation. But how long would it take you with little or no JS experience... > My first AJAX interaction Got that in tutorial form? Rick > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>Now, along comes AJAX...everyone's excited. But upon further examination, to use it I've got to learn Javascript and other technologies about which I know virtually nothing. If you don't want to learn and use Javascript, you cannot go very far in Web development anyway. -- _

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > That's mostly what I've been considering lately...working out > solutions that involve things that are more easily > employed...even if that solution is not quite as effective or > "elegant" as AS, JS, and AJAX solutions. Well, you will need t

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Walker
Some examples of using hidden iframes here. You might find some JS you can adapt to your purposes. http://www.eswsoftware.com/products/srs/ > That's mostly what I've been considering lately...working out solutions > that involve things that are more easily employed...even if that solution > is no

Problem in a Simple webservice: 1D array works 2D fails

2005-10-27 Thread Mackenzie Cosens
Hi we've been working on this and I get to post. Mackenzie Sigh. I'm having a problem returning an array from a webservice. It works when the array is only 1 dimension. When the array has 2 dimensions it does not work. I'm thinking that 2D arrays are supported... CF version is 6,1,

Client/Session Variable: When to set?

2005-10-27 Thread Nomad
Hello! Need to clear this up once and for all When is the best time to set session/client variables..(Application page or Cart page for an online shop) and why? My understanding is that sites that set session/client variables in Application page have poor search engine ranking. Thanks in adv

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Calvin Ward
I mean employability in a more broad sense than being an employee. If you prefer, replace employability with marketability... :) -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alter

RE: Client/Session Variable: When to set?

2005-10-27 Thread Matthew Walker
By "Application page" do you mean Application.cfm? If you do, then the search engine bot is never going to know where the session/client variables are being set. In general, you probably want to allow bots to spider the pages of your shop, but surely client and session variables are irrelevant for

Re: Problem in a Simple webservice: 1D array works 2D fails

2005-10-27 Thread Robert Munn
I was able to replicate this error on CFMX 6.1. According to the Apache Axis documentation, 2D array support needs to be enabled through the global Axis config. See this document: http://ws.apache.org/axis/java/reference.html Note that 2d array support is disabled by default. Here is the rele

Re: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Robert Munn
Dave Watts likes to ruminate on this subject. The hidden frames/JS passing of data method is something I learned at Fig Leaf in '96 or '97. It works just fine, but it still leaves you with the same issues of concurrency that Barney highlighted, and you'll still need to learn Javascript to really

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> If you don't want to learn and use Javascript, you cannot go very far in > Web development anyway. (Sorry for leaving the conversation I started...I asked myself (since I'm the boss) if I could get off early and go cycling...I said "yes", so off I went...) Depends on how you define "go very far

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
> Your resistance to learning various other > technologies (JS, AS, AJAX, etc) won't get you very far beyond > basic CF and HTML, which might work for you but for how long? That's the question...at what point will my clients demand more than I can provide with CF and HTML? Seems like a long

RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web applications?

2005-10-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the referrel, Matthew... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:58 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Inline frames a good alternative for creating web > applications? > > > Some examples of using hidden i

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