Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanx Dave! You're welcome! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or on

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Sean Corfield
Thanx Dave! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > In SQL Server, anything beginning with "sp_" are stored procedures > built into SQL Server. So, the driver invokes those SPs to create  and > invoke a new temporary SP. Temporary objects (including these SPs) are > tied to the conne

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Dave Watts
> So does the driver just call that API on the DB and the procs are > created inside the DB? What causes the procs to go away later? (I > assume they're GC'd at some point otherwise you'd end up with millions > of them in the DB :) In SQL Server, anything beginning with "sp_" are stored procedure

Re: Secure Hosted Subversion Services: Suggestions and experiences?

2010-08-08 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:10 PM, David Mineer Jr wrote: > I used codesion for years, then switched to unfuddle.  Little cheaper and > lots more features (at that time).  Both are good but I sure love unfuddle. I'll second the recommendation for Unfuddle for ease of use and great features. Codesi

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > Yes, the SQL Server JDBC drivers from both DataDirect and MS do this. > You can prove this for yourself by looking at traffic with SQL > Profiler in SQL Server. You'll see an initial call to sp_prepareexec > followed by subsequent calls to sp_ex

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Gerald Guido
I love this freakin' mailing list. I get smart just by asking questions. ;) G! On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > > Most people don't realize that when you send a parameterized query > > > using cfquery to SQL Server, what happens behind the scenes is that > > > ColdFusio

Re: Secure Hosted Subversion Services: Suggestions and experiences?

2010-08-08 Thread David Mineer Jr
I used codesion for years, then switched to unfuddle. Little cheaper and lots more features (at that time). Both are good but I sure love unfuddle. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Dominic Watson < watson.domi...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Key features: > > * Security (proven enough to convinc

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Dave Watts
> > Most people don't realize that when you send a parameterized query > > using cfquery to SQL Server, what happens behind the scenes is that > > ColdFusion creates a temporary stored procedure on the server, then > > executes that temporary stored procedure. > > Er, can you provide proof of that

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Sean Corfield
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Mike Chabot wrote: > Most people don't realize that when you send a parameterized query > using cfquery to SQL Server, what happens behind the scenes is that > ColdFusion creates a temporary stored procedure on the server, then > executes that temporary stored proc

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Dave Watts
> Does CF create that temporary stored procedure every time a single CFQuery > is called?  It seems like a bit of extra overhead. No, these procedures are cached by the connection, so if someone else has run the same query earlier the procedure will be pulled from cache. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Lea

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Gerald Guido
>>ColdFusion creates a temporary stored procedure on the server, then executes that temporary stored procedure. Does CF create that temporary stored procedure every time a single CFQuery is called? It seems like a bit of extra overhead. Curious, G! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Mike Chabot

Re: Stored Procedure or ORM

2010-08-08 Thread Mike Chabot
I wouldn't say that ORM systems have an "obvious advantage" in every situation. There are plenty of good reasons to use stored procedures that have nothing to do with efficiency. ORM systems and stored procedures are not mutually exclusive. Many ORM systems allow you to use stored procedures. If

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Ben Conner
As an ISP, it isn't self-blacklisting that is the issue; if we get crap from other servers, depending on the situation, we may blacklist immediately. Once those limits are hit, you won't be getting mail here, legitimate or otherwise. AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc. all have similar technologies deploy

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Wil Genovese
The other moral of the story is to run your own mail server. Odds are you won't be blacklisting yourself ;-) Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator Wil Genovese Consulting wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 8, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Reed Powell wrote: > So th

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread Reed Powell
Here is what I've learned over the past week on this topic (talk about a timely posting). I have a simple app that I use to send email blasts to my neighbors about neighborhood events, etc. There is a database with the emails (about 150 records), and I just loop over it and do a CFMAIL to sen

Re: CFML broadcasting app

2010-08-08 Thread David McCan
We wrote an email marketing system that we used for about 8 years. Our experience was that CFMAIL, since CF 7 at least, is plenty fast enough to send out very large numbers of emails. The ColdFusion programming was the easy side of things. The challenges were on the systems side. Email relay