On 12/20/05, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, it seems you are both at a stalemate: He knows PHP; You know CF.
I think this is actually the most valid argument. If you have a
buncha CF developers, it makes little sense to use PHP. If you have a
shop full of PHP developers, you
On 12/21/05, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One the the biggest advantages of CF over PHP is that the interface to
any database
does not depent on the type of database. There are no calls to
functionalities proper to the type of database.
While I have certainly found the
On 12/21/05, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to everyone for all the great stuff on this thread. I have an uphill
battle to get my boss to go with CF but now I have lots of ammo.
To be blunt, I'm not sure you have a lot of ammo. It seems to me that
so far -- other than anecdotes
John Paul Ashenfelter wrote:
On 12/21/05, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One the the biggest advantages of CF over PHP is that the interface to
any database
does not depent on the type of database. There are no calls to
functionalities proper to the type of database.
While
one enormous benefit of db-specific libraries is that they
can be specifically optimized for the database
I agree, but if optimization is really a concern, write your own CGI --
or better ISAPI -- application in C
(yes, I said C, not C++) .
IMO, using an extra layer like CF or PHP makes
Thanks to everyone for all the great stuff on this thread. I have an uphill
battle to get my boss to go with CF but now I have lots of ammo.
Dude, you have a flame thrower! :)
Will
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Remember who you're audience is. He is a programmer who thinks in
precedural terms.
He probably scoffs at scripting languages (which is what CF feels
like). He is probably a little intimidated with OOP.
You are not easily going to change his basic underlying prejudice
towards his development
-Talk
Subject: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San Francisco. Although my
boss is now CEO of the company, he started out as a C programmer and so is a
PHP fan. Currently our storefront is Miva Merchant.
I on the other hand am a CF
This isn't going to be a popular response for a CF list, but if you are
going to use a packaged app for your store, I'd suggest staying with PHP
and using X-Cart. I'm a full-time CF developer and have been for years,
but when it comes to a storefront application, this is the best out
there.
One the the biggest advantages of CF over PHP is that the interface to
any database
does not depent on the type of database. There are no calls to
functionalities proper to the type of database.
Then php is the only language I've seen in more than 30 years career
that is so dumb that it is the
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
I can give you a specific example. I undertook a private pro-bono
project for the volunteer radio station I have my show on, about the same
time as a friend in the USA did a similar thing. He and a colleague
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San Francisco. Although my
boss is now CEO of the company, he started out as a C programmer and so is a
PHP fan. Currently our storefront is Miva Merchant.
Josh,
FWIW, and to show how easy it is to do a CF based website for a
/
From: Larry Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:47 PM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: Re: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San Francisco. Although my
boss is now CEO
convince my boss to go with CF
Good God in heaven... if you are presently using MIVA I have to believe
there is nowhere to go but up. I just got done buying product as a customer
of a MIVA system and I was sadly reacquainted with how truly awful -- how
very mid 1990's (as in Devonian period
thing.
That list could go on for days.
..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
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From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Help me convince my boss to go
, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
Unless PHP has changed DRASTICALLYCompare this
cffile action=upload filefield=myfile destination=C:\somedirectory
or this...
cfquery name=qry datasource=dsn
Select * from table
/cfquery
or this...
cftrycfcatch
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San Francisco. Although my
boss is now CEO of the company, he started out as a C programmer and so is a
PHP fan. Currently our storefront is Miva Merchant.
I on the other hand am a CF devotee (intermediate level) with very little
with CF is the excellent programmers on
this list.
M!ke
-Original Message-
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San
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From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Help me convince my boss to go with CF
Hello All,
I'm the web dude at a small clothing company in San Francisco. Although
my boss is now CEO of the company, he started out as a C
Just to add to those comments...if you look around, you may find some
comparison articles that may be helpful elsewhere on the net. Here's one from
the Macromedia (Adobe) site that has some good code comparisons:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/coldfusion/articles/php_cfmx.html
Something that
I can give you a specific example. I undertook a private pro-bono
project for the volunteer radio station I have my show on, about the same
time as a friend in the USA did a similar thing.He and a colleague took
two years to build their station's site, http://wamu.org which has about
Maybe to build on mike's post, you could have your boss write some basic php
code he usually uses, then translate it to CF, so he can actually SEE how much
his looks like NASA Egyptian hieroglyphics code compared to soothing CF.
:)
Will
Good God in heaven... if you are presently using MIVA I have to believe
there is nowhere to go but up. I just got done buying product as a customer
of a MIVA system and I was sadly reacquainted with how truly awful -- how
very mid 1990's (as in Devonian period) -- their product was insofar as
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