RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Yeah and at last check, the latest version of the Flash > player for Pocket PC did not support the much needed data > connections. I think it does, although I'm not sure. It is Flash Player 6, and has worked with all the FP6-required stuff I've tried it with so far. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> I wish MM would demo some Pocket PC flash apps. I tried to > find something, anything showing that you can truly make a > data enabled Flash app for PPC. There isn't really anything special or different about the process, except that (a) the screen is typically smaller and (b) network connect

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Connie DeCinko
greatest thing since sliced bread? > Actually with Flash MX, you can read in the available stage size and > layout > the contents accordingly. Also, its quite easy to detect the screen > resolution in the latest version which makes this even easier. That's all well and fine...bu

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Connie DeCinko
Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Eek, Flashlite is only flash 4, but flashplayer for pocket pc is 6. Anyhow, it somewhat makes no difference. The biggest issue as I mentioned is

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Kevin Aebig
Eek, Flashlite is only flash 4, but flashplayer for pocket pc is 6. Anyhow, it somewhat makes no difference. The biggest issue as I mentioned is that not only are alot of developers unaccustom to putting in the extra effort to get the functionality that makes a great rich app. Flash grew almost t

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> That's all well and fine...but how many mobile devices > support Flash MX created SWFs? Aren't most mobile devices > cut off around Flash 4 and/or 5? I don't know about most devices, but Windows Mobile supports Flash Player 6, and the original poster was asking about Pocket PC devices. Dave

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
> Actually with Flash MX, you can read in the available stage size and > layout > the contents accordingly. Also, its quite easy to detect the screen > resolution in the latest version which makes this even easier. That's all well and fine...but how many mobile devices support Flash MX created S

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Kevin Aebig
, 2005 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? I disagree, mobile interfaces require a totally different approach. The chances you have to create two types of interfaces, for mobile use, and for desktop use. The small screen forces you to approach in

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Micha Schopman
PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 3/29/2005 6:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Just as a sidenote to Dave's post, the abilities of the flash player are also extremely flexible in that you can run the same application from both workstation browse

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Keith Gaughan
Micha Schopman wrote: > If you have basic understanding of OOP and the basics of modifiers, > namespaces, etc. you will be starting quicker with the C# than the > average CF developer. .NET pretty much forces you to think object > oriented. Caveat: Keep in mind the old saying... A FORTRAN p

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Kevin Aebig
-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > Here, we need to consider adding .NET in order to support > apps on Pocket PC. > There are things that just don't require lugging around a > notebook and a full Windows client. Up until now, support of &g

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Here, we need to consider adding .NET in order to support > apps on Pocket PC. > There are things that just don't require lugging around a > notebook and a full Windows client. Up until now, support of > CFML apps on Pocket PC has been non-existent. I'll never > leave CFM. In what ways can

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Connie DeCinko
e gains by using BD.NET over just using CFM and .NET by themselves? -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 7:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? 3) If you're a CFML-on-Java

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Vince Bonfanti
ti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com > -Original Message- > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:51 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > I'd re

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Calvin Ward
rmance (ignoring other OS solutions for the moment), what other reasons are there? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Se

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Paul Hastings
Vince Bonfanti wrote: > internationalization tends to be much stronger in ASP.NET than J2EE. These last time i looked it was on a par (but different of course) w/core Java + icu4j. well what's so hot about i18n in asp.net these days? ~~

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Vince Bonfanti
A follow-up to the integration question: support for mobile devices and internationalization tends to be much stronger in ASP.NET than J2EE. These are two key features that are pulling some of our lead BD.NET customers towards .NET. Note everyone is interested in these two features, and there are

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Vince Bonfanti
See answers inserted, below. Vince > -Original Message- > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > Vince, > > Are you sayin

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Micha Schopman
maart 2005 12:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Vince, Are you saying that .NET performs better than all J2EE implementation? What exactly do you mean by performance? While I know that Microsoft has come a long way in terms of reliability, how

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Calvin Ward
L PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > So that this thread does become somewhat topical, here's a > real question about it. > > What specific value does deployin

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-29 Thread Vince Bonfanti
ginal Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:12 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > i cant stop hearing... > > tri lambda lambda lambda lam... and omega mu!

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Micha Schopman
Pete Freitag blogged about the new release. I really like some of the features added. Truly amazing. They are not as big as for the cf reports in CFMX7, but the sort of functionality added really helps in the daily tasks on a recurring basis. I like it a lot. CFCACHECONTENT - Partial page caching

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Micha Schopman
BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > If some joe off the street started making posts about their blog in here > I might have the same reaction Jim did. ;) Hey now, as a Joe who has a blog, I resemble that! I installed BlueDragon on .NET for the first time the other day, and

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Tony Weeg
Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:50 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > [snip] > > I guess while I'm plugging both CFUNITED-05 and BlueDragon (is this still > on-topic?), for tho

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread James Holmes
TED] Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? [snip] I guess while I'm plugging both CFUNITED-05 and BlueDragon (is this still on-topic?), for those more interested in free software--Linux, MySQL, Apache--Dave Ep

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > So that this thread does become somewhat topical, here's a > real question about it. > > What specific value does deploying on .NET over

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Jordan Michaels
gt;What specific value does deploying on .NET over J2EE bring to a CFML >application? And how does that apply to real world needs? > >- Calvin > >-Original Message- >From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:16 PM >To: CF-Talk >

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Jordan Michaels
Joe Rinehart wrote: >>If some joe off the street started making posts about their blog in here >>I might have the same reaction Jim did. ;) >> >> > >Hey now, as a Joe who has a blog, I resemble that! > >I installed BlueDragon on .NET for the first time the other day, and >found it a relatively

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Calvin Ward
ECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? +1 Rick. I'm sitting here thinking, "if it -was- blatant adverstising, the longer the thread's kept alive, the more mileage Vince is getting from it" :)

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Charlie Griefer
+1 Rick. I'm sitting here thinking, "if it -was- blatant adverstising, the longer the thread's kept alive, the more mileage Vince is getting from it" :) On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:57:44 -0500, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calvin Ward wrote: > > > > I too consider this blatant and undesirab

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Rick Root
Calvin Ward wrote: > > I too consider this blatant and undesirable advertising, just as I would if > Damon or Ben did the same thing. I consider the ensuing discussion to be much worse. - Rick ~| Find out how CFTicket can in

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Joe Rinehart
> If some joe off the street started making posts about their blog in here > I might have the same reaction Jim did. ;) Hey now, as a Joe who has a blog, I resemble that! I installed BlueDragon on .NET for the first time the other day, and found it a relatively smooth experience. I expected to s

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Rick Faircloth
onday, March 28, 2005 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? In my opinion this was a thinly veiled advertising post for a product. Earlier today or yesterday someone posted a link to their blog where they described how something can be solved that w

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Brian Holder
i agree w/jordan - vince is a well-respected community advocate and bd is something that the community at large should be aware of and informed about. i think that a discussion about whether the post is an advertisement or not (blatant, thinly-veiled, or otherwise) is moot - newatlanta is creati

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Calvin Ward
mileage may vary. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Adrian Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? So when others mention their lastest blog entry that's ok? -Ori

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Adrian Lynch
So when others mention their lastest blog entry that's ok? -Original Message- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2005 22:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Wasn't the release of the product announced on

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Calvin Ward
g, just as I would if Damon or Ben did the same thing. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Jordan Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? Jim probably just didn't realize

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Jordan Michaels
BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread? > > >Is blatant advertising permitted on this list? (hint: you know the >answer) > > >- Original Message - >From: "Vince Bonfanti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" >Sent:

RE: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Adrian Lynch
It's about as related to CF as you can get. Would you be so sharp if it were a write up by someone at MM? Ade -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2005 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

Re: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Jim McAtee
Is blatant advertising permitted on this list? (hint: you know the answer) - Original Message - From: "Vince Bonfanti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:36 PM Subject: Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced brea

Is BlueDragon.NET the greatest thing since sliced bread?

2005-03-28 Thread Vince Bonfanti
That's the question raised in my new blog (hint: the answer is "no"): http://blog.newatlanta.com/index.cfm Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFus