New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This may be OT, however I would appreciate your opinion, realizing this is hard to quantify and purely speculative. You have two developers. One is a couple years out of college, BS in Computer Science. Done some work with Access and VB. You need to train him in CF, but he has all the

RE: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Kevin Aebig
with everything that isn't specific to CF, such as application design, problem solving, etc. Of course I'm just a putz, so what do I know... =] !k -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: New developer vs

Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Barney Boisvert
If the bean counters want to quantify that, you might be well advised to find some new bean counters. ; ) My opinion is that language idioms are pretty simple, but core development concepts are quite complex. As such, I'd generally rather hire a developer with experience building the types of

RE: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Michael E. Carluen
. Hope I've given you a bit of perspective Ken. Good luck on your search! Michael -Original Message- From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer If the bean counters want

Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Dave Ferguson
I personally think that experience is key. However, the experience needs to be relevant to the project. Also, I think it is more than productivity. I can hire a guy with 1 year experience that can churn out tons of code a day. However, you have to look at the quality of the output. The

Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Doug Bezona
One thing that experience tends to bring is a broader understanding of things that are more peripheral to CF itself - SQL (especially in terms of a specific RDBMS, or wider experience with multiple), network and server configuration, JavaScript/DOM, etc. A developer's willingness to learn new and

Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Jake Pilgrim
Honestly, the value of a veteran developer can rarely be quantified. Veteran can mean a variety of things and all of the prior comments suggest this - a developer with 2 years of experience might be as good as a developer with 8 years of experience. This means that years of experience is a very

Re: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Aaron Rouse
Seems like there are so many variables that it is hard to spell out definitions. I know of developers who have been making business applications for many years. Starting off with desktop applications and moving onto web based ones via things like ColdFusion. One would think people with so much

RE: New developer vs. Veteran developer

2007-05-16 Thread Jaime Metcher
developer vs. Veteran developer If the bean counters want to quantify that, you might be well advised to find some new bean counters. ; ) My opinion is that language idioms are pretty simple, but core development concepts are quite complex. As such, I'd generally rather hire a developer