Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 03:14 am, Matt Liotta wrote: help you much on Linux since Office doesn't support Linux. I think Office runs under Wine (certainly the CrossOver people think so !), I would expect it's (Office's) COM intergration to work too. -- Tom Chiverton (sorry 'bout sig.) Advanced

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 14:56 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: I think Office runs under Wine (certainly the CrossOver people think so !), I would expect it's (Office's) COM intergration to work too. I don't believe that the ability to emulate the Windows API has anything to do with whether or not

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-09 Thread Dave Watts
I think Office runs under Wine (certainly the CrossOver people think so !), I would expect it's (Office's) COM intergration to work too. I would too, within WINE, but I doubt that WINE exports COM APIs to the larger environment of the OS. I don't use WINE, though, so I'm not sure of this.

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 01:18 am, Matt Liotta wrote: What we have done is re-implement the CFX API in .NET and then hosted that inside of a CFX tag implemented as a DLL. As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have helped the non-Win32 folks a lot ! -- Tom

Re: .NET integration without COM (repost)

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Chiverton
(dunno where the body of this went last time !) On Saturday 06 Sep 2003 01:18 am, Matt Liotta wrote: What we have done is re-implement the CFX API in .NET and then hosted that inside of a CFX tag implemented as a DLL. As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Dave Watts
What we have done is re-implement the CFX API in .NET and then hosted that inside of a CFX tag implemented as a DLL. As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have helped the non-Win32 folks a lot ! How many non-Win32 folks are using .NET? I know about Mono

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Dave Watts
What we have done is re-implement the CFX API in .NET and then hosted that inside of a CFX tag implemented as a DLL. As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have helped the non-Win32 folks a lot ! (I didn't think of this question in time for my first

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have helped the non-Win32 folks a lot ! I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify? Matt Liotta President CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.MontaraSoftware.com (888) 408-0900 x901

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 14:01 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: As opposed to implementing the .Net calls in a CFML tag, which would have helped the non-Win32 folks a lot ! I don't understand what you mean, could you clarify? Maybe I've read this wrong, but you've writen a Win32 DLL that talks .Net, so

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Dave Watts
Maybe I've read this wrong, but you've writen a Win32 DLL that talks .Net, so you can use a .Net language to write CFX tags, providing your server is on Win32 so can load the CFX. If you had chosen instead to write a Java/C CFX that talked .Net, you could call .Net packages (assemblys ?)

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
Maybe I've read this wrong, but you've writen a Win32 DLL that talks .Net, so you can use a .Net language to write CFX tags, providing your server is on Win32 so can load the CFX. If you had chosen instead to write a Java/C CFX that talked .Net, you could call .Net packages (assemblys

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 14:27 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: We did the write the DLL in C++, so you can call .NET assemblies directly. However, the DLL is native to Windows, thus an SO will need to be written for *nix to support Mono. I'd like to suggest you do so - this will greatly broaden the use of

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
I'd like to suggest you do so - this will greatly broaden the use of CF, as it'll then be able to support 'native' Linux .Net apps... We don't believe there is significant demand currently for native Linux .NET applications. We wouldn't purchase it at the moment, but I bet people using the

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Haggerty, Mike
made it clear no pricing information has been announced, can you give us any indication of the range where it might fall? Thanks, M -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: .NET integration without

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Monday 08 Sep 2003 14:46 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: I'd like to suggest you do so - this will greatly broaden the use of CF, as it'll then be able to support 'native' Linux .Net apps... We don't believe there is significant demand currently for native Linux .NET applications. I'm just

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
This sounds like an excellent product that would be quite useful. In fact, I am kind of surprised to be hearing about this so out-of-the-blue. We've been working all summer under the radar to produce some interesting technology. This is the first of many such projects. Can you clarify what

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
I'm just glad your aware of the prospect, t'is all :-) Don't mistake us as a Windows only shop. All of our production servers are Linux, my development machine is Mac OS X, and we actually host the US CVS mirror for Mono. In short, when and if Mono --or Portable.NET for that matter-- is ready

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 06:40 US/Pacific, Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 14:27 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: We did the write the DLL in C++, so you can call .NET assemblies directly. However, the DLL is native to Windows, thus an SO will need to be written for *nix to support Mono.

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: .NET integration without COM On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 06:40 US/Pacific, Thomas Chiverton wrote: On Monday 08 Sep 2003 14:27 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: We did the write the DLL in C++, so you

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Sep 8, 2003, at 10:13 US/Pacific, Kevin Graeme wrote: While it might not create new demand for CF, I think it would make more CF houses interested in the Linux version. We're switching to the Linux version soon, so I've been trying to keep an eye on what things we might not be

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-08 Thread Matt Liotta
Hmm, interesting point. Thanx. Do you have much invested in COM integration that you might want to migrate to Linux? If so, how do you envisage doing so? And how do you envisage the .NET integration helping you on Linux? I'd say the most common CF/COM integration probably involves talking to

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-07 Thread Samuel Neff
Subject: Re: .NET integration without COM any Java-based CFX tags can be recompiled in J# with often nothing more than a change to the import statements. Matt Liotta ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-07 Thread Matt Liotta
For a CFX that was written in Java and then moved to J#, what is the difference in performance (for CFMX version)? We haven't done any testing, but anecdotal evidence suggests that there is a noticeable performance improvement. I believe this is because the .NET CLR has a better JIT

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-05 Thread Mike Brunt
Congratulations Matt, even though you do swear at others from time-to-time ;o) Kind Regards - Mike Brunt Original Message --- Montara Software yesterday announced a new product named Black Knight that allows CFML developers to integrate .NET technology with their

RE: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-05 Thread Stacy Young
Very cool...can you give some high level details in how it works? (architecture, advantages over CF's current bridge approach etc) Thanks! Stace -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 5, 2003 3:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: .NET integration without

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Very cool...can you give some high level details in how it works? (architecture, advantages over CF's current bridge approach etc) As you know, to make use of a .NET-based object with any version of CF requires wrapping that .NET object with COM. In addition with CFMX, you have to use a

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-05 Thread Kwang Suh
What we have done is re-implement the CFX API in .NET and then hosted that inside of a CFX tag implemented as a DLL. This eliminates the need for COM with ColdFusion prior to CFMX and eliminates the Java-COM bridge with CFMX. Thus allowing you to develop a CFX tag in any .NET language

Re: .NET integration without COM

2003-09-05 Thread Matt Liotta
Excellent. Is there going to be an evaluation version available? We are currently conducting a private beta where interested parties can evaluate the software. We have not decided whether there will be evaluation version available when Black Knight ships. Quite simply, the price point of