RE: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread Peter Tilbrook
I was hoping to present a "Flex" or Central presentation at the next meeting on December 10. Of course I was one of the many not accepted to the beta and the NDA would no doubt be problematic. Instead I have chosed to present BlueDragon 6.1 (beta). We need to keep CFML alive and BlueDragon will go

Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread Matt Liotta
> Any chance of elaboration on that point?  Main > advantages/disadvantages? > That is an interesting question and partially why I brought it up. I'm not sure that I know all the advantages and disadvantages. I could certainly start listing things off the top of my head, but I don't know that w

Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread Rick Root
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt wrote: >  >> ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to >  >> chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon > > Any chance of elaboration on that point?  Main advantages/disadvantages? The cost advantage is even large

RE: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread d.a.collie
Matt wrote: >> ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to >> chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon Any chance of elaboration on that point?  Main advantages/disadvantages? -dc [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsu

Re: BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:56 pm, Matt Liotta wrote: > > We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheaper alternative than CFMX. > choice and BlueDragon's strong showing as of 6.1 just made that choice > a lot harder than it used to be by implemented much of CFMX. :nods That's one of the things that h

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:48 pm, John McCosker wrote: > >>phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them > Just out of curriosity, why attach it then? Which bit of 'required by company, yup' passed you by ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 em

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yep - and I have it installed.  A stock version of OE doesn't detect sigs. Regards, Howie   - Original Message -   From: Thomas Chiverton   To: CF-Talk   Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:50 AM   Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...   On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:30 pm, Howie H

BlueDragon (was Re: Another CFML app server...)

2003-12-05 Thread Matt Liotta
> We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheaper alternative than CFMX. > While that is certainly one difference between BlueDragon and ColdFusion, it isn't the only one. There are many other reasons to chose BlueDragon over ColdFusion and vice versa. With the BlueDragon 6.1's availability aroun

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:30 pm, Howie Hamlin wrote: > Hmmm...Outlook Express doesn't do that :) have you seen OEQuoteFix ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread John McCosker
>>phone and fax numbers dumped where any spam bot can find them Just out of curriosity, why attach it then? -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 December 2003 13:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Howie Hamlin
Hmmm...Outlook Express doesn't do that :) We all know how much you love MS email clients -- Regards, Howie   - Original Message -   From: Jochem van Dieten   To: CF-Talk   Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:24 AM   Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...   "dash dash s

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote: >   > What is the proper signature delimiter? "dash dash space" on a line by itself. Mail clients should discard that line and everything below it when quoting a message in a reply. Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one you

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:10 pm, Tangorre, Michael wrote: > Well you got me on that one I guess... what an email novice I must be. > > -Original Message- Hmm, top quoting too :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger L

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
Jochem, What is the proper signature delimiter? Steve -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Tangorre, Michael wrote: > Interesting considering some peo

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Well you got me on that one I guess... what an email novice I must be. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... Tangorre, Michael wrote: > Interesting consider

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tangorre, Michael wrote: > Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Atleast they use a proper signature delimiter so the signature isn't quoted in the reply :-) Jochem -- When you don't want to be surprised by the revolution organize one yourself  - Loesje [Todays

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 13:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? >> Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) > Required by company no doubt.. Yup. And i've told them it's shite. And I've told them it's anti-neti

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Philip Arnold
> I use switch/case tags and don't use Fusebox. > Admittedly not very often but if logic dictates... > > Why is it bad to use them,  is there a substantial overhead > verses cfifs ? > > I must admit the one curious thing I have always though about > Fusebox is that essentially boils down to a switc

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread d.a.collie
< Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ?   < Not directed at just you Michael ! >> Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) Required by company no doubt.. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Interesting considering some people have 22 line signatures. :-) < Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? < Not directed at just you Michael ! [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2003 11:39 am, Tangorre, Michael wrote: > [not a lot, but quoted everyone in full] Would it kill people to trim the quoted emails down a little ? Not directed at just you Michael ! -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/case statment and I can't believe that for a big app it's that efficient. imho -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2003 20:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Dear FuseBox Users, No one uses cfcase/cfswit

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
04, 2003 4:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I'll admit I'm superficial about this sort of thing, but I'm not about to use a webserver from a company who has such a crappy site. The information about th

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-05 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 20:32 pm, Rick Root wrote: > Looks to me like BlueDragon Server is a better "free" option for CFML. > Heck, I'm probably gonna go with BlueDragon 6.1 JX when it is released > rather than upgrading to CF 6.1 from 5.0 on my box... We're sorta roughly looking at it as a cheape

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Jim Davis
T could do most, if not all, of what WSH does now - if it ran that way. Jim Davis   _   From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I agree. As I see it Coral is means to creating a deskt

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Samuel Neff
http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Kevin Graeme
ally I see it offering an option to accomodate a bad situation. It may not be a good option, but it's one more than before. -Kevin - Original Message - From: "Marlon Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 20

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
AIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: >Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off >just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: > Sorry. This whole thing seems a little backwoods to me. I am pretty much connected everywhere nowadays, so the whole concept of a desktop server for localhost seems a bit weird to me. The ubiquitous network is really around the corner from my perspective. It is pret

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
3:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... It seems to me that there are a lot of better alternativesphp, asp.net, python, perl, etc.   I guess I'm just trying to apply the old rule "the right tool for the right job" /slips on flameproof underwear marlon Th

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
ay, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: >Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off >just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Marlon Moyer
th > >Distance Education Division > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM > >To: CF-Talk > >Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... > > > >A the links seeme

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
, December 04, 2003 3:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... At 03:24 PM 12/4/03 -0500, Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: >Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off >just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! 24 by my count (I'm ignor

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Thane Sherrington
ort of thing, I think. T > >Adam Wayne Lehman >Web Systems Developer >Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health >Distance Education Division > >-Original Message- >From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM &g

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Rick Root
Adam Wayne Lehman wrote: > Seriously though. they only support like 25 tags! You'd be better off > just learning the ASP equivalents and calling it a day! I noticed that they had checkboxes next to all the tags in the tag support listing... but I also noticed that they simply choose to NOT menti

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Adam Wayne Lehman
of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Dan Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... >Fro

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Dan Farmer
A the links seemed to work for me as well. I kinda like the idea of this... >From: "Greg Luce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:36:44 -05

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Greg Luce
What doesn't work? I just bounced through it all and downloaded it. -Original Message- From: Gabriel Robichaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Chickens. -Original Message- From:

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
heh... no, it was just that we were all amused by the misspellings and broken links : )   - Original Message -   From: Gabriel Robichaud   To: CF-Talk   Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:40 AM   Subject: RE: Another CFML app server...   They are back:   CORAL News   Thu, Dec, 4

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
m you! -Original Message- From: Tim Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... > I think its been removed :) Hmm, I just get a "directory listing denied" message now...  We got informed of

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Tim Blair
> I think its been removed :) Hmm, I just get a "directory listing denied" message now...  We got informed of it's existence by someone sending us a message through the contact form on our company site: ---8< My name is Roger Samuel represen

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
Chickens. -Original Message- From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I think its been removed :) On 4/12/03 3:04 pm, "Gabriel Robichaud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Ryan Mitchell
gt; Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... > > I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) > > Tim Blair wrote: > >> > Morning, >> > >> > Has anyone seen this

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Gabriel Robichaud
wow... the site must be down, i was able to view it all this am. Gabriel -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Another CFML app server... I would like to try it, but none of the links work

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Clint Tredway
I would like to try it, but none of the links work on the site ;) Tim Blair wrote: > Morning, > > Has anyone seen this before: http://www.pcaonline.com/coral/ > > It's a new one on me... > > Tim. > > --- > RAWNET LTD - Internet, New Media and eb

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Tony Weeg
EMAIL PROTECTED] 410.548.2337 -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line is indicative of a structure pr

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Samuel Neff
Yeah, true.  And you can't beat the price.  $150. Sam -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... Yeah, I'm in agreement here with the downsides, howeve

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Raymond Camden
> -Original Message- > From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:45 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... > > I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on > it's own line is indi

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Tangorre, Michael
Yeah, I'm in agreement here with the downsides, however, lets be encouraging.  :-) -Original Message- From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Another CFML app server... I think the fact that their engine req

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Tony Weeg
app server... Good point. I like the idea.  Lets see if they can do something with it.   -Original Message-   From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...   Michael Dinowitz wrote

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Samuel Neff
;m maintaining. Sam -- Blog:  http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject:

RE: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Tim Heald
Good point. I like the idea.  Lets see if they can do something with it.   -Original Message-   From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...   Michael Dinowitz wrote:   > T

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I > found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, > one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the > community. ReplaceNoCase(templa

Re: Another CFML app server...

2003-12-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some investigation, I found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its own line, one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all the community. I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like somethi