> Well no offense to MM but there are alot better J2EE
> servers than JRun. I don't think JRUN even falls in the
> top 10. It's right up there in ease of use, but
> customization and complexity and support it lags far
> behind.
I would think that JRun isn't really trying to compete with WebLogi
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:18:04 -0700
Subject: Re: CFMX and JRUN
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On Jun 18, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Ron Connelly wrote:
> I took the plunge and made the purchase, and it has worked for my
> purpose
On Jun 18, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Ron Connelly wrote:
> I took the plunge and made the purchase, and it has worked for my
> purposes-- however not without much pain. Much of the process right
> from the install has been difficult. And even getting help with the
> install from MACR was tough.
Yes
Troy Simpson wrote:
> Can I deploy non-ColdFusion J2EE Applications with JRUN?
Sure. If you look at the documentation for using multiple CF
instances you see that first you create a new instance of JRun.
After you have this new instance of JRun running, you deploy
(copy) the CF EAR to it. There
> Thanks for helping me clear this up. I guess I was not the
> only who was confused about this.
You're welcome, of course!
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Dave,
Thanks for helping me clear this up. I guess I was not the only who was
confused about this.
Sincerely,
Troy
Dave Watts wrote:
> > Let me get more specific. I am curious about the licensing
> > of the JRun software. Do I get the same license of JRun with
> > ColdFusionMX 6.1 as if I had
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> > Troy...
Ditto what Dave said. That's what a rep told us with respect to MX. Now with CF 5 it was a different story altogether.
Bob
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> Troy...that's what I just said...no I'm 99% sure you
> can't...and the sales rep backs me up ;-)
Yes, you can legally deploy no
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> Troy...that's what I just said..
Yeah, I've heard this spoken by many MM employees when pitching the CFMX J2EE.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:42:43 -0400
Subject: RE: CFMX and JRUN
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> Let's make this simp
> Let me get more specific. I am curious about the licensing
> of the JRun software. Do I get the same license of JRun with
> ColdFusionMX 6.1 as if I had purchased JRun by itself?
Yes, that is my understanding. I'm pretty certain of this.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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> Let's make this simple Troyif you want to run Jrun
> seperate from CFMX 6.1 you will need a seperate licence ;-)
No, you won't. It is my understanding that you get a full license of JRun
with the purchase of CFMX Enterprise.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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> Troy...that's what I just said...no I'm 99% sure you
> can't...and the sales rep backs me up ;-)
Yes, you can legally deploy non-CF applications on JRun with the purchase of
a CFMX Enterprise license.
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> > Can I deploy non-ColdFusion J2EE Applications with JRUN?
>
> If you purchase JRun by itself you can -- else what would be
> the purpose.
You can do this when you purchase CFMX Enterprise, as well. You can create
as many JRun instances as you like, and put anything you like on them.
Dave Wat
>Troy...that's what I just said...no I'm 99% sure you can't...and the
sales rep backs >me up ;-)
I must disagree. I've installed CFMX J2EE and removed the default
'cfusion' instance and can deploy any J2EE apps I want. The sales reps
are _always_ going to give you a solution that requires you to b
>Troy...that's what I just said...no I'm 99% sure you can't...and the
sales rep backs >me up ;-)
I must disagree. I've installed CFMX J2EE and removed the default
'cfusion' instance and can deploy any J2EE apps I want. The sales reps
are _always_ going to give you a solution that requires you to b
The trial and Developer editions include all of the features of the full
enterprise version, so if you install you will have the option to install
with Jrun. HTH!
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From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 2:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX and JRUN
If you purchase JRun by itself you can -- else what would be the
purpose.
Dick
On Jun 18, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Troy Simpson wrote:
> Can I deploy non-ColdFusion J2EE Applications with JRUN?
>
> Dave Watts wrote:
>
> > > Does ColdFusion MX 6.1 now include a full version of JRUN?
> >
> > Yes.
>
This is weird for Mac OS X users.
JRun is a "for Purchase" product on the Mac or you can download the
free developer version.
You can't buy CFMX for the Mac, but you can download the free developer
version of CFMX J2ee
There is no other option but CFMX J2ee on the Mac
But, I've been told, yo
June 18, 2004 12:51 PM
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Can I deploy non-ColdFusion J2EE Applications with JRUN?
Dave Watts wrote:
> > Does ColdFusion MX 6.1 now include a full version of JRUN?
>
> Yes.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
Can I deploy non-ColdFusion J2EE Applications with JRUN?
Dave Watts wrote:
> > Does ColdFusion MX 6.1 now include a full version of JRUN?
>
> Yes.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> phone: 202-797-5496
> fax: 202-797-5444
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Let's make this simple Troyif you want to run Jrun seperate from CFMX 6.1 you will need a seperate licence ;-)
It's not unusual for MM to be a tad vague..and we all know that sales reps in general don't know what they are selling in the IT industry.
Pretty sure this topic went through this li
> Does ColdFusion MX 6.1 now include a full version of JRUN?
Yes.
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Is the same as if you had purchased a copy of JRun and it's EULA?
Adkins, Randy wrote:
> Yes We have CFMX 6.1 and it does come with JRUN4
>
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> From: Troy Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:11 PM
> To: CF-Talk
>
Talk a look at this document:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/intro_61.html
"...
Versioning Changes
Even if none of what I have mentioned thus far makes you sit up and take
notice, this will.
With ColdFusion MX 6.1 we've changed the product editions. We replaced
ColdFusi
Yes We have CFMX 6.1 and it does come with JRUN4
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From: Troy Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Oh, I have the Enterprise Edition of ColdFusion MX 6.1.
Troy Simpson wrote:
> ALL,
>
Oh, I have the Enterprise Edition of ColdFusion MX 6.1.
Troy Simpson wrote:
> ALL,
>
> Does ColdFusion MX 6.1 now include a full version of JRUN?
>
> Thanks,
>
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All,
Let me get more specific. I am curious about the licensing of the JRun
software. Do I get the same license of JRun with ColdFusionMX 6.1 as if
I had purchased JRun by itself?
I got a very unconvincing answer from the sales rep of "No". But
according to Ben Forta's Presentation, it look
e 18, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: CFMX and JRUN
> Yes and No :-). If you install CFMX for J2EE w/ Jrun, option 2 of the
> install, a full version of Jrun *is* installed. If you choose to install
the
> Server Configuration, option 1 of the install, a full version of Jrun *is
>
> Yes and No :-). If you install CFMX for J2EE w/ Jrun, option 2 of the
> install, a full version of Jrun *is* installed. If you choose to install
the
> Server Configuration, option 1 of the install, a full version of Jrun *is
> not* installed.
Does this matter if you're installing a single user l
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From: Christine Lawson
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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:52 AM
Subject: RE: CFMX and JRUN
Ye
Yes and No :-). If you install CFMX for J2EE w/ Jrun, option 2 of the
install, a full version of Jrun *is* installed. If you choose to install the
Server Configuration, option 1 of the install, a full version of Jrun *is
not* installed.
Christine
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