Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-27 Thread Dirk De Bock - Lists
: Saturday, October 25, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: Re: Eolas patent suit On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Beer wrote: My livelihood comes from developing and delivering flash-based newsletters and promotions in e-mail.When this change goes into effect, we're either out of business

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-27 Thread Richard Meredith-Hardy
... back to directly CF related, what is the workaround already put forward, I don't seem to be able to find it. We use dynamically generated PDF's a lot Bryan Stevenson wrote: Why would you not be able to use the workaround already put forward?I haven't paid a huge amount of attention as

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
PLEASE move this off topic discussion off of CF-Talk and onto CF-OT or CF-Community. Thank you [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-25 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Beer wrote: My livelihood comes from developing and delivering flash-based newsletters and promotions in e-mail.  When this change goes into effect, we're either out of business or facing the loss of our primary product. You don't have

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-25 Thread Nick de Voil
You don't have anything to worry about, Jeff.Users who have enabled ActiveX controls in Outlook will not be prompted before the Flash player and other ActiveX controls are loaded. Does anyone in their right mind enable ActiveX controls in Outlook? Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message]

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-25 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 04:22 PM, Nick de Voil wrote: Does anyone in their right mind enable ActiveX controls in Outlook? That's a good question.ActiveX controls are disabled in Outlook by default.Of course, that is not a result of the upcoming changes to Internet Explorer.The point

RE: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-25 Thread Jim Davis
Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Eolas patent suit You don't have anything to worry about, Jeff.Users who have enabled ActiveX controls in Outlook will not be prompted before the Flash player and other

RE: OT is OT (was Re: Eolas patent suit)

2003-10-25 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT is OT (was Re: Eolas patent suit) Thank you. There is a CF-OT list just for this discussion. CF-Talk is for CF technical talk only. I'd have jumped

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-25 Thread Dave Carabetta
Sure! Lots of folks do: Crazy people, masochists, people who believe that There's enough distrust in the world, Pirates (they like the X), Rerun from TV's What's Happing!. um, Goofy (despite Micky and Donald's warnings), and, um. well - I think that's about it. Well, I'm not sure Rerun is

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jeff Beer wrote: I'm more than a little worried about this change.My livelihood comes from developing and delivering flash-based newsletters and promotions in e-mail.When this change goes into effect, we're either out of business or facing the loss of our primary product. I've seen no

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Why would you not be able to use the workaround already put forward?I haven't paid a huge amount of attention as it doesn't effect any of my past of near future work. Thanks - Original Message - From: Jeff Beer To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Eolas patent

RE: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Dave Watts
I've seen no workarounds that will allow us to embed flash in an HTML e-mail message - scripting is out. This is a huge bummer. Why would you not be able to use the workaround already put forward?I haven't paid a huge amount of attention as it doesn't effect any of my past of near

RE: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Jeff Beer
Dave is correct - scripting is out for e-mail messages - way too many variables to test for and manage, assuming you can even test. We've developed a way to allow the code to 'gracefully degrade' from fully scripted embedding of the OBJECT tag, to showing a standard jpg image, that works on almost

OT is OT (was Re: Eolas patent suit)

2003-10-24 Thread Gyrus
Shouldn't this Eolas stuff be OT? I know Flash and CF are nicely integrated, but this is CF-Talk. It's hard enough to filter through the amount of mail on this list - OT posts should be marked as such to help us find the CF stuff, at least. I don't use Flash, or anything affected by the Eolas

Re: OT is OT (was Re: Eolas patent suit)

2003-10-24 Thread Matt Liotta
I know Flash and CF are nicely integrated, but this is CF-Talk. It's hard enough to filter through the amount of mail on this list - OT posts should be marked as such to help us find the CF stuff, at least. I don't use Flash, or anything affected by the Eolas patent suit (even though I

RE: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Subject: RE: Eolas patent suit Dave is correct - scripting is out for e-mail messages - way too many variables to test for and manage, assuming you can even test. We've developed a way to allow the code to 'gracefully degrade' from fully scripted embedding of the OBJECT tag, to showing

Re: OT is OT (was Re: Eolas patent suit)

2003-10-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Thank you. There is a CF-OT list just for this discussion. CF-Talk is for CF technical talk only. I'd have jumped on this earlier if I wasn't dealing with just having my wisdom teeth out and a dead box (another site). Please move the Eolas, MM sock and related threads either to the MM-Talk list or

Re: Eolas patent suit

2003-10-24 Thread Kevin Pompei
. -Original Message- From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 1:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Eolas patent suit Dave is correct - scripting is out for e-mail messages - way too many variables to test for and manage, assuming you can even test. We've