Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end

Arden Weiss" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end Well doggies... From all the excellent feedback on this issue of "real good cheaper alternatives to SQL Server" it seems I

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html font size=3You can run Sybase for Linux for FREE for development purposes only. It's a great deal if you want a bunch of developers building sites and testing things out. For production use it costs about the same as MSSQL and Oracle (and is just as confusingly priced).br I don't know a

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-Original Message- From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end Since Howie mentioned Interbase a few weeks back, I have looked at it quite a bit and I believe with the 1.0 release of the open source

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O /(_/ /_/ Whoof... 410-757-3487 -Original Message- From: Steve Aylor [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 2:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject:Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end Full Product at Estimated Retail Price http://www.microsoft.com/sql/produc

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few viable alternatives. :) Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net Voice: (508) 240-0051 Fax: (508) 240-0057 -Original Message- From: Arden Weiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end So -- even th

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1 2:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject:Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end Full Product at Estimated Retail Price http://www.microsoft.com/sql/productinfo/pricing.htm SQL Server 2000Enterprise EditionStandard EditionDeveloper Edition Processor Licensing $19,999 US per proces

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There is one interesting tid bit to all this, at least for SQL7. "In a full-text catalog, you can run only eight searches at one time. If you begin a ninth search, Microsoft Search Service will hold it in a queue." SQL Server Magazine Online - Build a Better Search Engine, May 23, 2000. So 8

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: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end PostgreSQL: http://www.postgresql.org/index.html It will probably have just about every feature you're looking for. What features are you looking for? Here's an interesting article of MySQL vs. PostgreSQL

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th a RDBMS. Benjamin S. Rogers Web Developer, c4.net Voice: (508) 240-0051 Fax: (508) 240-0057 -Original Message- From: Edward Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: M$ licensing has me at wits end PostgreSQL: http://www.post

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ct: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end i.e. most of the people running such sites are not properly licensed because Microsoft requires you go on a course and sit an exam to be Microsoft Licensing Professional Certified. ROFLMAO ^_^ *ahem* sorry..returning you to regularly scheduled seri

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I know very little about MSDE or Interbase, except that many people find these to be reasonable alternatives to Microsoft SQL Server in Windows environments. I believe MSDE can be installed off of the Office Server Extensions disc, and is probably a good solution for your company if most of

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MySQL does pretty much everything MSSQL does, uses less resources, is faster, is more stable, and only costs $200 for a commercial licence and is free otherwise. There really is NO competition here. We have used MySQL to great success, but the above statement really misstates the case. MySQL

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We have used MySQL to great success, but the above statement really misstates the case. MySQL is missing many features necessary to the daily operation of a RDBMS. It is really only a marginal step up from Access in this manner. In many scenarios, MySQL is (much) faster than Microsoft SQL

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On 3/3/01, Benjamin S. Rogers penned: Given this, comparing Microsoft SQL Server's licensing and pricing scenarios to other RDBMSs (such as Oracle, Sybase, Informix, etc.) would seem to suggest that Microsoft SQL Server is priced fairly. Compare it? How? Microsoft can't tell me how much a

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Bud, Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what they are required to do as far as SQL Server licensing? I'll bet if you emailed a few of them they'd tell ya how they do it. Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Development Consulting

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e- From: Chris Montgomery [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 6:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end Bud, Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what they are required to do as far as SQL Server licensing? I'l

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Bud, Have you considered just asking some of the web hosting companies what they are required to do as far as SQL Server licensing? I'll bet if you emailed a few of them they'd tell ya how they do it. You can reach a great many of them at once on a mailing list called [EMAIL PROTECTED] Go

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Good point. I thot there were postings here some time ago about how to get SYBASE free. best, paul At 07:01 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote: Of interest, none of you seem to be advocating SYBASE -- wonder why not. Is it possibly because their web site is even more confusing than M$ site -- just

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Well, it looks like you can still buy SQL Server 7: http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=zsw1id=1990344488clink=dmks/sql_server_7cf=9 best, paul At 07:01 PM 3/3/01 -0500, you wrote: From all the excellent feedback on this issue of "real good cheaper alternatives to SQL Server" it seems I must

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) - Original Message - From: "Arden Weiss" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end Well doggies... From all the excellent feedback on this issue of "real good cheaper a

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Go for MSDN, you get all Microsoft software for in house use. I think its $15k / year. Thats worth a look because you get all versions and all updates of all their software. I think thats right, my company is on MSDN and we get everything

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subsidiaries. -Original Message- From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 March 2001 15:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end Go for MSDN, you get all Microsoft software for in house use. I think its $15k / year. Thats worth a look because you get

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MSDN doesn't include commercial licensing, which is what he was looking for. and universal is only $2,500. -Original Message- From: Martin Sutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 7:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end Go for MSDN, you

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i.e. most of the people running such sites are not properly licensed because Microsoft requires you go on a course and sit an exam to be Microsoft Licensing Professional Certified. ROFLMAO ^_^ *ahem* sorry..returning you to regularly scheduled serious stuff now.. hee hee -Gel www.carigamer.com

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-Original Message- From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 9:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end MSDN doesn't include commercial licensing, which is what he was looking for. and universal is only $2,500

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10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end You can get it for $599. I posted about that the other day. Chris Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Development Consulting http://www.astutia.com Allaire Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603Fax 210-490

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: Friday, March 02, 2001 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end ok here's MS pricing for MSDN with universal at $2,499. how can i get it for $599? sorry if i missed the previous post. http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/prodinfo/pricing.asp --dylan

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210-490-3249/888-745-7603Fax 210-490-4692 AIM: astutiaweb; ICQ: 7381282; Firetalk: Ag78 -Original Message- From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end ok here's MS pricing for MSDN

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Thanks for all the responses. I'll keep you posted. I guess as soon as the gal at Microsoft can figure out how their licensing works she'll let me know. For now though, according to the retailer that supposedly sells Microsoft Commercial Internet Services licensed products, they've never sold

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sweet. thanks. -Original Message- From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 12:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: M$ licensing has me at wits end A colleague in our CFUG told me about the MSDN Business Connection program. After being accepted

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Hell, if they can't figure it out themselves, why lose sleep over it? Fire up the server and get on with your life. Jim - Original Message - From: "Bud" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: RE: M$ licensin

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On 3/2/01, Jim McAtee penned: Hell, if they can't figure it out themselves, why lose sleep over it? Fire up the server and get on with your life. I guess that's the next step. Somehow I figure their roving "License Cops" probably do understand it though. :) I still haven't gotten an answer

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I stayed with SQL7. It does all I need. best, paul At 08:59 PM 3/2/01 -0500, you wrote: I still haven't gotten an answer from anyone though. Is there anyone else out there hosting websites, other than their own, and using SQL 2000 as the database? If so, how are you licensed? I guess with

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Full Product at Estimated Retail Price http://www.microsoft.com/sql/productinfo/pricing.htm SQL Server 2000Enterprise EditionStandard EditionDeveloper Edition Processor Licensing $19,999 US per processor$4,999 US per processor SQL Server Processor Licensing Clarification