RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-30 Thread Maureen
At 04:30 PM 1/28/02, Dave Watts wrote: I thought Spectra was Ray's baby? No, my baby is a two year old who likes to answer everything with a nice firm No!. Funny, that was my impression of Spectra. No, Spectra answers everything with a nice firm Wait!

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
OMG, they didn't even use THEIR OWN content management system (Spectra)? Oh, the humanity! Pete - Original Message - From: tom muck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Neil Clark
AFAIK, the Old Allaire site used Spectra to build its own site - well a version of it. I think this was the original version of Spectra developed and coded by Jeremy himself. Neil __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 /

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Billy Cravens
I thought Spectra was Ray's baby? - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:34 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... AFAIK, the Old Allaire site used Spectra to build its own site

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Raymond Camden
for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 3:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread Dave Watts
I thought Spectra was Ray's baby? No, my baby is a two year old who likes to answer everything with a nice firm No!. Funny, that was my impression of Spectra. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-28 Thread John Dowdell
Hey, no fair starting this thread on a Friday night... you'll make me want to get all the messages at home like Matt and Jeremy do, to make sure I don't miss any juicy flames! ;-) Summary: No hot fresh new info here, just bounce-offs and links from some of the previous comments. There's a

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Andrew Scott
- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 27 January 2002 5:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... We announced this downtime in our forums and I did not do so here. It was my fault that an announcement wasn't made. I will after

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens
On one note, I'd say that we should give Macromedia a break. I know that they have had some website and support issues, but they have delivered a solid release of both Server and Studio. Which is all you can really expect, cuz for most of us, that's all we're really paying for. I'm sure if

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Bill Davidson
] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... On one note, I'd say that we should give Macromedia a break. I know that they have had some website and support issues, but they have delivered a solid release

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Douglas Brown
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... On one note, I'd say that we should give Macromedia a break. I know that they have had some website and support issues, but they have delivered a solid release of both Server and Studio. Which is all you can really expect, cuz for most

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Paul Hastings
that they have had some website and support issues, but they have delivered a solid release of both Server and Studio. Which is all you ahem, i'm a bit miffed with the unicode support in studio... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Bryan Stevenson
] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Original Message - From: Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:13 AM Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I stopped short on this subject, as most

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Bill Davidson wrote: They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia. I never understood it. A company of that size has got to have a back up server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance. I am not sure if switching infrastructures qualifies as

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens
destruction of the Allaire Site... Bill Davidson wrote: They've been doing this long before Allaire was bought by Macromedia. I never understood it. A company of that size has got to have a back up server that they can stick up while they do their routine maintenance. I am not sure if switching

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Paris Lundis
Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... Haha - very true. So what? We pay so much for the developer's exchange, we shouldn't be concerned with their implementation issues :0) -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-27 Thread Billy Cravens
have done in the long run (I think they were starting to crumble under their own weight) -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 6:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... developer's exchange

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread tom muck
Fixing is one thing, but haven't these guys heard of staging servers? ;-) Also, everything on the MM site seems to take forever. Turn off the Flash and give me the information quickly. tom Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 006901c1a63b$1af15770$[EMAIL

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread Matt Brown
We announced this downtime in our forums and I did not do so here. It was my fault that an announcement wasn't made. I will after this note. Now in our defense, the whole web team at MM *IS* the old Allaire team and it is being DIRECTLY run by Jeremy Allaire and none other. Please lets just

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread tom muck
Great news Matt. I can see that the 3 days is for the fumigation of the machines. It's going to take that long to get the stink out from Broadvision. ;-) tom Matt Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We announced this downtime in our forums

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread Paris Lundis
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... Great news Matt. I can see that the 3 days is for the fumigation of the machines. It's going to take that long to get the stink out from Broadvision. ;-) tom Matt Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread Bud
On 1/26/02, tom muck penned: Also, everything on the MM site seems to take forever. Turn off the Flash and give me the information quickly. I don't think it's the Flash. I think it's the Java Server Pages. I've yet to go to ANY site that uses jsp that isn't slower than doggy doo. Everything

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread Tom Nunamaker
Maybe they areNEO. Isn't this the future of CF? Basically taking CF template and changing them into JSP files? I've heard NEO is suppose to be pretty fast, but MM is worrying me now Tom Nunamaker Paladin Computers Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5.0 Developer

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-26 Thread tom muck
The jsp isn't Java Server pages, it's Broadvision, which is a JavaScript-based server that is outrageously expensive and slow as molasses. tom Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p04320404b878b5c8747d@[192.168.0.1]... On 1/26/02, tom muck penned: Also, everything on the MM site seems

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-25 Thread Tom Nunamaker
I already wrote MM about this too. What are they thinking -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I try to go to the developer's download section

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-25 Thread Paris Lundis
the Allaire incarnation for years... -paris -Original Message- From: Tom Nunamaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 23:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I already wrote MM about this too. What are they thinking

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-25 Thread Jim McAtee
web development. :-) Jim - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I know it is a pain migrating stuff.. so I am sympathetic (having been

RE: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-25 Thread Tony Gruen
I have always wanted to build our own developer's exchange... oops, did the soft part come out loud? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site... I try to

Re: Macromedia's destruction of the Allaire Site...

2002-01-25 Thread Paul Hastings
this was posted a couple of days ago in the forums. i suppose the announcement got lost as they don't have a blurb specific forum anymoremaybe they're fixning all the stuff we're complaining about. __ Why Share?