Thanks for all the suggestions and interesting chat!
I think an easy win would be to create one combined js file to start with,
but I guess there is no other way than to look for and properly document
what is actually being used. I was hoping you guys had a nice eclipse or
browser plugin that show
> If you have a view within an application that uses an ajax
> enabled datagrid but does not need autocomplete, form
> validation, and an accordian... Why would you load your
> entire toolbox into the back of the truck when all you need
> is a box of nails and a hammer? So maybe you don't expir
another way. :)
Jim Rising
Sr. Cold Fusion Developer
ICGLink Inc.
www.icglink.com
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 3:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
> I figured it would be an issue with browser cac
> I figured it would be an issue with browser caching... Hence
> the 'of course I don't know how well this deals with browser
> caching issues'. :)
>
> though I suspect that you could 'expire content immediately'
> on the web server to remedy this.
That gets a distinctly suboptimal result. If
See my previous email. You don't want the browser to load a new JS file each
time. That would be silly if they've already got it.
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You wouldn't want to expire that content though. You WANT to cache it.
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> For instance, if I dump (www.netgrow.com.au/files) a JavaScript
> array while using the prototype library, there are a crap load of
> extra functions tacked on to each array and that kind of stuff
> has to add up.
Why does it have to add up? They're not passed by value when you create a
new a
You wouldn't want to expire that content though. You WANT to cache it.
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I figured it would be an issue with browser caching... Henc
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Would probably be better to include javascript.cfm, which then writes each
individual script tag to the page. Otherwise the browser is only going to
try and cache javascript.cfm.
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
> If I was to try and solve the problem on the other end (after the site
> was developed), I w
That would be sweet!
Jim Rising
Sr. Cold Fusion Developer
ICGLink Inc.
www.icglink.com
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From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
Right...
You create a build that contains
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Subject: RE: too many js libraries
Yeah I know... But I still like how mootools allows the developer to download
only those portions of the library that they need for the parts that they are
actually using into a tidy little compressed package. :) the core is under 3k.
The core + all
It's not necessarily terrible if you use proper expiration headers.
But I agree, better (and easier) to smash all the JS into a single
static file and just use that.
On 7/11/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If I was to try and solve the problem on the other end (after
> > the site was
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: too many
> If I was to try and solve the problem on the other end (after
> the site was developed), I would first identify all the
> javascript objects that were in use, and where they were
> being used within the application. No idea on the best
> approach for this... Seems like a manual search. Once I
This will be (somewhat) resolved in the final build.
Steve "Cutter" Blades
Adobe Certified Professional
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
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Casey Dougall wrote:
> On 7/11/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wr
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On 7/11/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Surely if you are not using it all it would be 0k compressed or otherwise?
Just waite till you use some of the cfajax tags in CF8... talk ab
om: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
He's talking about downloading the code in production to the client
computer. You're talking about a "build" for the developer Jim.
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On 7/11/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> Surely if you are not using it all it would be 0k compressed or otherwise?
Just waite till you use some of the cfajax ta
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: too many js libraries
>
> He's talking about downloading the code in production to the client
> computer. You'
Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: too many js libraries
Add another vote for jQuery from me. It really does encompass most of
the functionality that I've needed for my apps.
Rey
Christopher Jordan wrote:
> +1 for jQuery. Eve
Add another vote for jQuery from me. It really does encompass most of
the functionality that I've needed for my apps.
Rey
Christopher Jordan wrote:
> +1 for jQuery. Even though I've not seen your site, I'd almost be
> willing to bet that it will do everything you want.
>
> Chris
>
> Ben Nadel
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: too many js libraries
>
> Hi All, We have developed a large new website and used a number of
> javascript libraries along the way for some effects and so
He's talking about downloading the code in production to the client computer.
You're talking about a "build" for the developer Jim.
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From: Jim Rising [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 11:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: too
On 7/11/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Surely if you are not using it all it would be 0k compressed or otherwise?
Just waite till you use some of the cfajax tags in CF8... talk about js
files!!!
Casey
~~~
+1 for jQuery. Even though I've not seen your site, I'd almost be
willing to bet that it will do everything you want.
Chris
Ben Nadel wrote:
> For my 2 cent plug, I can tell you that the new jQuery library is only
> 20k compressed... So, even if you are not using it all, it's a really
> tight li
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From: Ben Nadel
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Wed Jul 11 16:40:58 2007
Subject: RE: too many js libraries
For my 2 cent plug, I can tell you that the new jQuery library is only
20k compressed... So, even if you are not using it all, it's a really
tight library wi
I like mootools' approach... They have a downloader that allows you to
download only what you need:
http://www.mootools.net/download
Jim Rising
Sr. Cold Fusion Developer
ICGLink Inc.
www.icglink.com
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From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July
As long as you've got reasonable caching directives in place and you
have a fair number of repeat visitors, I wouldn't worry about it much.
Once the files are downloaded, they'll not be downloaded again, so
their size is only relevant on the first access.
What would probably be a better use of op
For my 2 cent plug, I can tell you that the new jQuery library is only
20k compressed... So, even if you are not using it all, it's a really
tight library with a simple API.
..
Ben Nadel
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
www.bennadel.com
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