r primary source of income for one
> or more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the
> following because you believe it may be / become a better source of income?"
>
> Please let me know if this survey (or similar) has already been done in
> the last six mont
*Throws keyboard in the air and gives programming¹ the finger while
walking away*
On 3/26/14, 9:20 AM, "Phillip Vector" wrote:
>
>To show how things can be twisted...
>
>"poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new
>language at this time."
>
>So it doesn't count p
Correct.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
>
> To show how things can be twisted...
>
> "poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new
> language at this time."
>
> So it doesn't count people who are giving up programing altogether. :)
>
>
> On We
To show how things can be twisted...
"poll does not count / quantify people who're choosing not to learn a new
language at this time."
So it doesn't count people who are giving up programing altogether. :)
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Robert Harrison wrote:
>
> > @Robert Did you looked i
> @Robert Did you looked into Railo? If clients don't want to use Adobe
> Coldfusion due to the recent bad news, I've been recently able to sell Railo
> to them instead.
It's not recent bad news that caused this. It's been a long slow decline that
Adobe has failed to address with any marketin
@Robert Did you looked into Railo? If clients don't want to use Adobe
Coldfusion due to the recent bad news, I've been recently able to sell
Railo to them instead.
2014-03-26 13:40 GMT+01:00 Robert Harrison :
>
> I'd love to stick with CF as I've used to it successfully to solve almost
> every
> It wasn't - but the frustration wasn't towards you at all - just the general
> tiredness of it happening here so often.
If others are like me they don't want to see CF die. For me, responding to
these posts has always been in the hopes Adobe monitors this list and would
hear the cries of th
I'd love to stick with CF as I've used to it successfully to solve almost every
client request that's ever been asked... and some of them have been very
complex and convoluted. However, with Adobe's lack of support and marketing CF
has become too hard of a sell... we're moving to PHP now.
Ro
Survey allows for picking multiple answers.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Roger Austin wrote:
> Surveys are interesting, but caution must be used in looking at the
> results. A lot of the analysis on what to learn depends on the developer's
> background, location, industry,
M Bliss wrote:
>
> P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey. :-)
>
> This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML
> language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, "which
> one(s)?"
:-)
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Matt Quackenbush wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, John M Bliss
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I'll blissfully assume that 2/3 - 3/4 of the people on this list are not
> > going to take this survey because they're not
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:21 AM, John M Bliss wrote:
>
> I'll blissfully assume that 2/3 - 3/4 of the people on this list are not
> going to take this survey because they're not moving away from CFML.
>
That's the wrong assumption. It should be:
I'll blissfu
le on this list are not
going to take this survey because they're not moving away from CFML.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Raymond Camden wrote:
>
> It wasn't - but the frustration wasn't towards you at all - just the
> general tiredness of it happening here so often.
>
> > months as CF is dying because all of its developers are jumping ship.
> Not
> > > even one decided to stick with CF!
> > >
> > > While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
; > From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
> > To: cf-talk
> > Subject: Re: Quick Survey
> >
> >
> > P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey.
> :-)
> >
> > Thi
John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
> To: cf-talk
> Subject: Re: Quick Survey
>
>
> P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey. :-)
>
> This is just for people who're specifically lear
ship. Not
> even one decided to stick with CF!
>
> While polls are good for information, they can be twisted easily.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
> To: cf-tal
ation, they can be twisted easily.
Steve
-Original Message-
From: John M Bliss [mailto:bliss.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:51 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Quick Survey
P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey. :-)
This is just fo
P.S. "None / sticking with CFML for now" people need not take survey. :-)
This is just for people who're specifically learning a new, non-CFML
language for income reasons. For those people only, I'm wondering, "which
one(s)?"
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:43 PM,
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5XYDGRG
One question, "You've used CFML as your primary source of income for one or
more years. Now / soon you are learning / will learn which of the following
because you believe it may be / become a better source of income?"
Please let me know if
http://cfunited.com/blog/index.cfm/2013/1/30/State-of-the-CF-Union-survey-2013
--
John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss
~|
Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp
According to the link, the survey is closed.
"This survey is currently closed. Please contact the author of this survey
for further assistance."
~Brad
- Original Message -
From: "Shilpi Khariwal"
To: "cf-talk"
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 11:39 PM
Sub
Dear All,
You are one of a small group of ColdFusion users whose opinion we consider
above all others. As such, your input is extremely valuable to us while we
consider what direction the next version of ColdFusion Server should take.
If you have not already filled the ColdFusion Survey
iefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
d'oh! i got #2 wrong. i thought it asked what time it ends :(
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> So as to make it simple, the a
Got it Smokey ;-) *getting Michael a Smokey the Bear hat* hehehe
Eric
/*-Original Message-
/*From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 10:35 AM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
/*
/*1. All marketing posts should either be
1. All marketing posts should either be cleared before being posted to the list
or posted to a non-technical list like CF-OT or CF-Community.
2. While discussion about the merits of the survey may be of community
interest, please move it to another list. CF-OT is perfect for this.
3. Only you
It's who is the chair for something and the conference...so whatever you are
the chair of Ray..
Eric
/*-Original Message-
/*From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:52 PM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
/*
/*Woah - whats the
Thanx Matt
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>> That's not shoe size. Aww yeahh.
> >
> > Nice.
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread. Did anyone post the answers yet?
> > J
Eh, oh well. If I were Michael I'd still be torqued ;)
Nic
Charlie Griefer wrote:
> they're getting e-mail addresses out of it still. that's what they're
> going for and offering up the prize for :)
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Nicholas M Tunney
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Kind
they're getting e-mail addresses out of it still. that's what they're
going for and offering up the prize for :)
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Nicholas M Tunney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kind of defeats the spirit of the contest. Doesn't seem too bad to ask
> for 3 minutes of Googling to hi
Kind of defeats the spirit of the contest. Doesn't seem too bad to ask
for 3 minutes of Googling to hit up their site when a prize is offered.
Nic
Matt Williams wrote:
> >From Andy M.
> So as to make it simple, the answers to the last 3 questions are:
>
> 1) 2005
> 2) 1:30
> 3) Ray Camden
>
>
>
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Gerald Guido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> That's not shoe size. Aww yeahh.
>
> Nice.
>
> I haven't been following this thread. Did anyone post the answers yet?
> Just askin'... ;)
>
>From Andy M.
So as to make it simple, the answers to the last 3 questions are:
1
>> That's not shoe size. Aww yeahh.
Nice.
I haven't been following this thread. Did anyone post the answers yet?
Just askin'... ;)
Fair is fair, right?
G
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I would have guessed Dave Watts. Or is that hat size
>
>
> I would have guessed Dave Watts. Or is that hat size
That's not shoe size. Aww yeahh.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Ba
Who's the Advanced CF track chair.
-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 3:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
Woah - whats the last question? (Yes I'm too lazy to click on a link.)
On Tue, Jun 3, 20
Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
Sorry... I don't know Raymonds shoe size, but I think I would have at least
1...
On my left foot, Size 17 1/2 mens.
Bus accident. Don't ask.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Dominic Watson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Woah - whats the last
Sorry... I don't know Raymonds shoe size, but I think I would have at
least 1...
On my left foot, Size 17 1/2 mens.
Bus accident. Don't ask.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Dominic Watson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Woah - whats the last question? (Yes I'm too lazy to click on a link.)
>
> Who
>Woah - whats the last question? (Yes I'm too lazy to click on a link.)
Who has the biggest shoes in the CF Community?
Dominic
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to
date
Get the Free T
; questions when we're already giving you information about our purchase and
>> upgrade habits, PLUS our email addresses.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
&
nt: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
>
> There is a new quick survey for everyone in the CF community to participate
> in. The results will be shared directly with Adobe and the general public.
> We want to know what version of ColdF
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> d'oh! i got #2 wrong. i thought it asked what time it ends :(
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So as to make it simple, the answers to the last 3 questions are:
>>
>> 1) 200
, June 03, 2008 2:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
>
> There is a new quick survey for everyone in the CF community to participate
> in. The results will be shared directly with Adobe and the general public.
> We want to know what version of ColdFusion you a
email addresses.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Adobe ColdFusion Survey
There is a new quick survey for everyone in the CF community to participate
in. The results will be shared directly with Adobe and the gen
It is an interesting marketing technique, make us think Adobe cares
and give away an iTouch. In return, we have to learn more about the
conference and give them our email address so they can send us
"announcements". Where can I send the 3x5 postcard with my entry
printed on the back (no purchase/re
I did as well.. But it was just annoying seeing questions that I would
have to research for a conference that I won't be able to attend
anyway.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I submitted without answering those.
>
> So I don't qualify for the drawing, b
I submitted without answering those.
So I don't qualify for the drawing, but answered the poll questions.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Phillip Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> This is pretty bad...
>
> I filled out the first 5 questions... Then I have to do research to
> answer the last 3
This is pretty bad...
I filled out the first 5 questions... Then I have to do research to
answer the last 3? C'mon.. Stop with the marketing. It's annoying.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is a new quick survey for everyone in
There is a new quick survey for everyone in the CF community to participate in.
The results will be shared directly with Adobe and the general public. We want
to know what version of ColdFusion you are using now. Plus a few questions to
help us prepare for the CFUnited conference.
Answer all 8
having
you try to explain it twice I still have almost no idea of what this code is
supposed to be doing.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 2:25 PM, erik tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well I started by creating a survey. Once the servey header is created I am
> creting a question. the
Well I started by creating a survey. Once the servey header is created I am
creting a question. the question is created well. So mu next step is create a
option(label that will assosiated with the choice).
Here is the code
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";&
Since I have no idea what form.opt contains, or what is in the getOptions
query, or what is in getOptions2, it's impossible to help you. Honestly this
is so convoluted and has such confusing naming conventions I can't even
GUESS at what this is supposed to do. I mean, what kind of names are "opt",
The updated query is here. Its updates all fields rather than only modified
fields
select * from questionOptions where id in (#option2#) and options
='#variables.this#'
First, "it does not seem to be working properly" is not a useful description
of a problem. WHAT is it doing that makes you think it is not working
properly. You must explain yourself. I have sent over the link to the Smart
Questions page to you on many occasions, but clearly you still have never
re
>Your query is the unchanged. Instead of running the insert query, just
>output the query to the screen so you can see what is going on.
>
>On a different not, I've also seen your last few questions to the list and
>don't take this any other way than helpful, but you should really invest in
>a good
PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: DYnamic survey design
>> insert into questionOptions
>values('#variables.this#',#questionID#,#surveyID#)
>
>questionID and surveyID never change in your loop... you are just looping
>the same info into the database.
>
>.:.:.
>> insert into questionOptions
>values('#variables.this#',#questionID#,#surveyID#)
>
>questionID and surveyID never change in your loop... you are just looping
>the same info into the database.
>
>.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
>Bobby Hartsfield
>http://acoderslife.com
>http://cf4em.com
I rewrote the q
>> insert into questionOptions
>values('#variables.this#',#questionID#,#surveyID#)
>
>questionID and surveyID never change in your loop... you are just looping
>the same info into the database.
>
>.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
>Bobby Hartsfield
>http://acoderslife.com
>http://cf4em.com
~~
> insert into questionOptions
values('#variables.this#',#questionID#,#surveyID#)
questionID and surveyID never change in your loop... you are just looping
the same info into the database.
..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
http://cf4em.com
~~~
I am trying to design the dynamic survey. But when i insert question options
(label) I get weird behevior. It insert a duplicate but it should not
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml";>
Add/Remove Options
>From Jim Priest courtesy of Ray Camden's Soundings Survey App.
http://www.thecrumb.com/2008/04/09/the-open-cfml-ide-survey/
~|
Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to
date
Hi,
As part of the research for Centaur (next major version of ColdFusion
aka ColdFusion 9), we need your feedback on ColdFusion 8 features, what
enhancements do you need in them, what new features you want in the new
release etc.
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=yLcENFTqjkIn6gqoFpRiUQ_3d_3d
I've not had any problems with Eclipse, it's one of the most reliable
bits of software I have, although I have seen other developers
installs get nuked by plugins (always back it up first!).
However, saying that, it doesn't always run overly smooth, for
instance, I regularly have 5-10 second
On Thursday 10 Jan 2008, Jerry Guido wrote:
> One of my pet peeves is the dependency hell you can incur while
> installing plugins. Eclipse really needs a package manager like Yum or
> Synaptic.
With recent releases, it's a matter of making sure the 'discovery' remote
source is ticked as well as
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
"Most people I've spoken to just think Eclipse (not CFEclipse,
I might add) is a buggy time-waster which invariably seems to crash too
often."
It's funny that you mention this. I've be
On Thursday 10 Jan 2008, David Low wrote:
> Upgrading plugins seemed to be a big bugbear.
Eclipse 3.2 and later seem to have this well and truly sorted, as long as the
plugin is installable from an update site.
--
Tom Chiverton
Helping to adaptively monetize magnetic features
on: http://thefalk
Cutter (CFRelated) wrote:
> It's funny that you mention this. I've been using Eclipse/CFEclipse for
> a few years now, and have rarely, if ever, had a problem. Yet the guy
> next to me had horrific experiences out of the gate, until he did a
> complete reinstall. He's not a fan of Eclipse at all
"Most people I've spoken to just think Eclipse (not CFEclipse,
I might add) is a buggy time-waster which invariably seems to crash too
often."
It's funny that you mention this. I've been using Eclipse/CFEclipse for
a few years now, and have rarely, if ever, had a problem. Yet the guy
next to me
I'd say that this argument works against Dreamweaver as well. It has a
flashy interface, but does it look like a standard windows app?
On Jan 10, 2008 7:56 AM, David Low <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dawson, Michael wrote:
> > I'm not a fan of the visual interface of Eclipse. It looks as if the
Dawson, Michael wrote:
> I'm not a fan of the visual interface of Eclipse. It looks as if the
> authors either didn't take the time, didn't care or purposely avoided
> making Eclipse look like a native Windows application.
>
> There is little, or no, use of common Windows icons for Open, Save,
>
CF-Talkers,
Rather than bore the list with a long email I have written a blog post with
some of my thoughts on this topic. Remember that I am old and set in my ways
so take it for what it's worth :)
http://www.coldfusionmuse.com/index.cfm/2008/1/9/Coldfusion.IDE.Debate
-Mark
Mark A. Kruger, CFG
u have received this transmittal in error; any review,
dissemination, distribution or copying of this transmittal is strictly
prohibited.
-Original Message-
From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Adobe ColdFusion IDE surve
On Wednesday 09 Jan 2008, Andy Matthews wrote:
> You have a very valid point M!ke. If you hopped into a car that had a
> control stick instead of a steering wheel, would THAT make a difference?
If the car had enough features to justify the investment, I'd spend some time
getting used to it.
It's
ColdFusion IDE survey
>And who can argue with the "looks alien in Windows"...that's a show
stopper. (rolls eyes)
I'm not a fan of the visual interface of Eclipse. It looks as if the
authors either didn't take the time, didn't care or purposely avoided making
E
That's because it's a Java application. While it does mean that the GUI will
look different than a traditional, native W32 application, it also means
that it looks the same on all platforms (Win, Mac, Linux, etc.). Is it the
greatest GUI ever? Hell no. But is it OK? Yes.
To me (and most people, I
>And who can argue with the "looks alien in Windows"...that's a show
stopper. (rolls eyes)
I'm not a fan of the visual interface of Eclipse. It looks as if the
authors either didn't take the time, didn't care or purposely avoided
making Eclipse look like a native Windows application.
There is li
>>You don't check in FireFox (20%+ of Europe uses it) ?
I was speaking about my own customers.
In average and roughly, their sites are visited at 80% by MSIE, 10%
Firefox, 10% others.
But 100% of the administrators are using MSIE, and none is in Europe.
So I FIRST check for MSIE compatibility.
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2008, Claude Schneegans wrote:
> >>Eclipse's 'view module' uses the same rendering engine as FireFox
> Then why not using Firefox directly?
The 'I' in IDE :-)
I do use a separate FireFox, to be honest, I was just mentioning that IDEs
don't always roll their own renderers these
On Tuesday 08 Jan 2008, Andy Allan wrote:
> If you want to see the follow up to 2007's "fuzzy oranges", you will be
> there ;)
Well, now I have to go :-)
--
Tom Chiverton
Helping to enthusiastically negotiate integrated interfaces
on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com
***
>>I don't quite get what you mean by "it looks an alien (sic)" in the
Windows environment.
Sorry, it has been a while since I tested it, and I think I was thinking
of some other system.
I re-opened Eclipse, and it does not look too alien after all ;-)
--
___
On 1/8/08, s. isaac dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > by the way, if Adobe is to develop something else,
> > take CF Studio for model,
> > the design is already made, and EVERYBODY will be happy ;-)
>
> I'd be a lot happier with Dreamweaver as the model -- though I'd really
> like for t
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
>
> >>A base program, such as CFEclipse
>
> But CFEclipse is not a base program, it is a plugin for Eclipse.
> Thi
> by the way, if Adobe is to develop something else,
> take CF Studio for model,
> the design is already made, and EVERYBODY will be happy ;-)
I'd be a lot happier with Dreamweaver as the model -- though I'd really
like for them to fix the nonsense that causes it to continually open the
"des
>the consensus seemed to be that a CF IDE needs to either be Eclipse based
>(aligned well with Flex Builder and more) or Dreamweaver based (or possibly
both)
My vote is Eclipse. I never liked DW and used CFS from it's start but
quickly switched to CFEclipse when it came about. CFEclipse needs a de
-Original Message-
From: Rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
(snip)
"I believe that some people need to realize that their personal must have
feature is not necessarily even needed by
ittal is strictly
prohibited.
-Original Message-
From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
On Jan 8, 2008 1:42 PM, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Good point.
> If every
I think the problem is a bit of people who do not use CFEclipse currently
have come to expect a product they just install and use for CFM, HTML,
JavaScript, and maybe a couple other things just trying to list some random
possibilities. They do not expect to install a product then go searching
for
>
> Eclipse is much more
> general, much too general, it aims at development
> of any application, possibly in any language.
For me this is a good thing, It allows for those who needs to develop in
several languages to have an unified IDE.
> Another thing is that it looks an alien in the Windows
Sure, I can see how having a one-stop editor for Flex, ColdFusion,
JavaScript, XML, and HTML, with Subversion, ANT, bug tracking, and task
management integration would be a terrible idea. And who can argue with the
"looks alien in Windows"...that's a show stopper. (rolls eyes)
On Jan 8, 2008 12:4
On Jan 8, 2008 1:42 PM, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Good point.
> If everybody is happy with CFeclipse, let everybody use CFeclipse.
> If it is not the case, let Adobe develop something else, but not the
> same thing.
Everyone is not happy with CFEclipse, that is the whole p
> I am not sure why they would build an IDE on eclipse when we already have
> one.
My reasoning would be to start from a clean code base designed from the
ground up to be interoperable with existing applications, instead of being
tied to the legacy code.
Rich Kroll
~
>>I am not sure why they would build an IDE on eclipse when we already
have one.
Good point.
If everybody is happy with CFeclipse, let everybody use CFeclipse.
If it is not the case, let Adobe develop something else, but not the
same thing.
by the way, if Adobe is to develop something els
I am not sure why they would build an IDE on eclipse when we already have
one. Actually I don't see why anyone uses anything but cfeclipse but thats
just me :)
Dan
On Jan 8, 2008 12:21 PM, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd agree. Given everything that Eclipse offers, like SVN integrat
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That was my point of view (except that I'm fine with both CFEclipse/DW CS3
co-existing) and Ben Forta said I was "jumping the gun."
On Jan 8, 2008 12:46 PM, Dan Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure why they would build an IDE on eclipse when we already have
> one. Actually I don't see
>>Eclipse's 'view module' uses the same rendering engine as FireFox
Then why not using Firefox directly?
And what's about Explorer?
Who develops CF applications without checking what it looks like under
Explorer?
I have several sites using my CMS, and NO administrator uses anything
else than IE
>>A base program, such as CFEclipse
But CFEclipse is not a base program, it is a plugin for Eclipse.
This is one of the reasons I don't like it: Eclipse is much more
general, much too general, it aims at development
of any application, possibly in any language.
The other thing I don't like is it
I'd agree. Given everything that Eclipse offers, like SVN integration, Trac
integration, ANT integration, and editors for everything under the sun, I
think it would be completely insane for them to use anything else to build a
CF IDE.
On Jan 8, 2008 11:49 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
> Developing a view module in the editor is just a waist of time.
I have to call shenanigans on that one. Sometimes you need to drop in a
table with some funky rowspans or something, and Dreamweaver makes it
extremely easy to get a table set up exactly how you want it without having
to go back
2008 11:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: Adobe ColdFusion IDE survey
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> >>View (HTML) code should be separate to Control and Model code (CFML).
>
> Absolutely. I never understood the need for a view module in editors.
> First, it is so easy to have IE, Mozilla or b
Claude,
Very succinct... I agree with that.
-mark
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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>View (HTML) code should be separate to Control and Model code
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