From: "Russ Michaels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:46 PM
Subject: RE: SOLVED: Re: webservices and XML
> Kinda crap tho that it doesn't do it if you call it via CF, what if you
> want
> it as XML?
Yep...sometimes C
>I couldn't find a tool that does exactly the same thing but this one comes
>close in FireFox:
>
>http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/
>
>I don't it'll help in this case since it doesn't actually show the content
>of the page!
>
>This one seems closer and is a "machine" level tool rather than a brows
Kinda crap tho that it doesn't do it if you call it via CF, what if you want
it as XML?
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 August 2005 22:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOLVED: Re: webservices and XML
FYI folksthis tool is COOL!!
FYI folksthis tool is COOL!!
http://www.mindreef.net
Very useful indeed...and yes I have now confirmed that CF does convert
webservice output to XML automatically (because I actually saw it Jim) ;-)
Cheers
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge System
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
> > I don't get the point: why do you need to test the transfer mechanism?
> > I
> -Original Message-
> From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 3:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: HTTPWatch: Was webservices and XML
>
> >But I believe there's a free tool/extension that does something very
> similar
> >(
>But I believe there's a free tool/extension that does something very similar
>(if not exactly similar) for FireFox. I don't know of any low cost/free
>solutions for IE.
Unless the server has browser specific code the firefox
tool should usually give you the same information right? I
did a quick
My eyes glazed over at the mention of Ajax...don't want to learn another
do-hickey just to test this ;-)
Thanks
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
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web:
> I don't get the point: why do you need to test the transfer mechanism?
> Isn't the data what you need to test?
>
> The whole point of SOAP is "send object, get object" - as long as you're
> getting the object you can be safe in the assumption that the underlying
> translation went as planned can'
> -Original Message-
> From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: HTTPWatch: Was webservices and XML
>
> That HTTPWatch program looks really handy. I was ready to
> pull out my wallet and dump the standa
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Bryan, I'm talking about using an Ajax-style operation, using Javascript to
invoke the browser's XMLHTTPRequest object, invoking the Web service call and
getting the response back. You could use something like CFAjax to do the guts
work of calling the Web service.
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
> So given what I said above I will NEVER see this elusive XML unless I call
> the web service from
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
> >>
> >> Note also that if you invoke the service from CF it will automatically
> do
&
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:20 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
> oh yeah...and Jim...this article seems to say that CF will properly dump
> the
> XML ??
>
funnyI had the same reactionI mean at least let me test it on what I
want to and not a list of pre-canned sites ;-)
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
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That HTTPWatch program looks really handy. I was ready to
pull out my wallet and dump the standard $20 to $80 for
that kind of app. They want $250! Is there anything else
out there like that?
Lee Surma
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> Why not invoke it from your browser on the client side? Then you could
> dump the response from the XMLHTTP request.
Huh? ;-)
Got an example cause my tech interpreter ain't gettin you ;-)
I assume (not having heard this) that I can use the web service URL in my
browser address bar and someho
>>
>> Note also that if you invoke the service from CF it will automatically do
>> the XML conversion for you - you'll never see it. So CFDUMPing from the
>> invocation will ALSO return CF native objects.
>
>So given what I said above I will NEVER see this elusive XML unless I call
>the web servi
> Have you tried accessing this web service with a non-CF technology?
have a buddy trying it in ASP shortly
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
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web:
If you are creating and consuming these web services from CF, then it
probably "magically" turns the query xml back into a CF query.
Have you tried accessing this web service with a non-CF technology?
/t
>-Original Message-----
>Subject: webservices and XML
>Fro
oh yeah...and Jim...this article seems to say that CF will properly dump the
XML ??
http://www.webreference.com/programming/coldfusion/1/5.html
Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.883
some replies inlineand questions below
>
> Until you do that your content is NOT XML - CFDUMPing from within the
> WebService will always return CF native objects.
I'm cfinvoking from a remote machine and cfdumping the resulting
variable...NOT dumping from inside the web service
>
> Note a
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 1:54 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
> OKnobody is getting my point :-(
>
> Can anybody confirm this statement about CF gen
> >UPDATE:
> >
> >DOH! I changed the webserice and forgot to refresh it in CF AdminI
> no
> >longer get that errorbut the dump of the query returned by the
> >webservice sure looks like a CF query object and NOT XML??
> >
> >arrgghwhat am I not seeing here??
> >
> >so...output="no
OKnobody is getting my point :-(
Can anybody confirm this statement about CF generated webservice output in
Livedocs and explain it (ignore the output attribute portion):
The output attribute of the cffunction tag must be set to No because
ColdFusion converts all output to XML to return it
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>From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk"
>Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:08 AM
>Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>
>
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From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk"
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: webservices and XML
>> Check your docs under the cffunction tab to see
> Check your docs under the cffunction tab to see what the output attribute
> actually does. I think you may have it confused with what
> does.
>
> Here's a quote from docs page for output attribute:
>
> Specifies under which conditions the function can generate HTML output.
>
> yes: The entir
ed as
standard CFML. Any variables must be in cfoutput tags.
Dave
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From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: webservices and XML
Hey All,
OK...from Livedocs at MM:
The following list defines the requirement
Hey All,
OK...from Livedocs at MM:
The following list defines the requirements for how to create web services
for publication:
1) The value of the access attribute of the cffunction tag must be remote.
2) The cffunction tag must include the returnType attribute to specify a
return type.
3) Th
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