I do Fed work, and I'm stuck still supporting IE 6 and up... :(
Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
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Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
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Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010
On 11/15/2011 4:03 PM, Gerald Guido wrote:
Right now, according to my (extremely unscientific) estimates about
40-60% of the browser market supports at least some of the HTML5 spec
(Basically everything except IE8 and below).
I was lucky enough to watch Douglas Crockford give a keynote at
On 11/15/2011 5:06 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
The CF javascript libraries for UI work (cfdiv, cfwindow, etc) were
based on the ExtJS library (which then merged with Sencha).
Adobe/Macromedia, as far as I'm aware, never contributed any work to
that project but did license it. Going forward,
While it is still a problem, I think it is improving rather quickly.
IE6 continues to decline,and the major browser vendors are spewing out
updates faster than ever, especially Chrome. Even MS followed up IE9
with their IE10 beta rather quickly.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Steve 'Cutter'
Not to agree with Ray but has anyone seen Firefox's version number lately?
They've literally gone through 3 major release numbers in like 3 months.
At the beginning of this year they were on 3. or 4. They just released v8
last week.
andy
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From: Raymond Camden
Not to agree with Ray - wait - aren't we friends? ;)
I'm trying to find the Adobe site that has good browser metrics.
Anyone remember it?
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:49 AM, andy matthews li...@commadelimited.com wrote:
Not to agree with Ray but has anyone seen Firefox's version number lately?
Ah, SiteCatalyst Netaverages - but it isn't free though:
https://netaverages.adobe.com/en-us/index.html
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Raymond Camden raymondcam...@gmail.com wrote:
Not to agree with Ray - wait - aren't we friends? ;)
I'm trying to find the Adobe site that has good browser
sorry cutter but I'd quit
Sent from my iPhone... Don't hate.
On Nov 16, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades
cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote:
I do Fed work, and I'm stuck still supporting IE 6 and up... :(
Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified
Not saying the browsers aren't getting better, because they are. Updates
are much more frequent.
The issue that Crockford brought up though is a valid one. It's not the
browser manufacturers that are the problem, it's the users and corporate
IT departments that don't/won't upgrade. It will be
Tony, with what I do, and who I'm doing it for, it's worth the
headaches. A pain, for sure, but worth it. :)
Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
http://cutterscrossing.com
Co-Author Learning Ext
the problem only reared it'sugly head with Access with Unicode..
Oh the joys of driver differences.. not to mention that uninformative error
message. (It may as well have just said oops). Anyway, glad to hear it is
fixed.
-Leig
A pain, for sure, but worth it. :)
With all the JS you do it must be one sweet gig. I have to support IE @
work but luckily IE's JS engine performance is so crappy that I was able to
convince the powers that be to at least upgrade to IE 8. IE 8 and below is
as nimble as a bucket of sludge with
The issue that Crockford brought up though is a valid one. It's
not the browser manufacturers that are the problem, it's the
users and corporate IT departments that don't/won't upgrade.
My largest client has offices in 15 different cities - and every PC they have
is running IE7 and they
Looking at my analytics, IE6 has dropped off quite a bit over the past six
months. IE makes up 36% of our visitors. Of that, less than 1% from IE 6.
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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:40 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject:
Paul Irish had a nice post a while ago about IE... and how soon we
will have to support 72 (!) versions of IE. IEx is the new IE6.
Read here:
http://paulirish.com/2011/browser-market-pollution-iex-is-the-new-ie6/
Azadi
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 23:28, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote:
Thanks for the ideas. I do have a SQL table taht gets updated with activity so
like you said a timer or a trigger of some sort to do the AJAX call.
~|
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Just for a frame of reference, the IRS still has almost 80k employees on IE6.
You're Fed, and you have IE8? Man, you are lucky...
Steve 'Cutter' Blades
Adobe Community Professional
Adobe Certified Expert
Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
Hopefully someone has had more experience with this than I have and
can point me in the right direction. One of the web apps I'm working
on will generate a file which will store an encryption key, and we
hand it off to the web browser for the user to save on their computer.
The code we're using
The two that spring immediately to my mind are .txt and, as a last resort,
.zip (containing the file). Would either of those work for you...?
On Nov 16, 2011 6:35 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.org wrote:
Hopefully someone has had more experience with this than I have and
can point me in
Try changing your cfcontent to this:
cfcontent type=application/x-unknown
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote:
The two that spring immediately to my mind are .txt and, as a last resort,
.zip (containing the file). Would either of those work for you...?
The two that spring immediately to my mind are .txt and, as a last
resort, .zip (containing the file). Would either of those work for you...?
With some browsers .txt is likely associated with Notepad or Wordpad
and the default option would be to open. With a .zip it may give us
better
Try changing your cfcontent to this:
cfcontent type=application/x-unknown
I tried that and on computers with Microsoft Word installed, it
actually asks if you want it to open in Word (apparently there is a
longer x-unknown mime-type that Word uses and the browsers to
sub-string matching when
This makes no sense to me. I can understand a business or government
office being slow to upgrade to new software if cost were involved, but IE
upgrades are free, and would certainly be more secure and productive.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dan Crouch stario...@yahoo.com wrote:
Just
It's not that the upgrade costs. It's usually that they have a lot of
intranet apps that only run properly on IE6. :(
On 11/16/11 5:22 PM, Maureen wrote:
This makes no sense to me. I can understand a business or government
office being slow to upgrade to new software if cost were involved,
Oh, ack!! It never occurred to me that they would be stupid enough to apps
that only run on IE6.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote:
It's not that the upgrade costs. It's usually that they have a lot of
intranet apps that only run properly on IE6. :(
On
Not fair to say stupid enough.
Many of those apps were written back when IE6 was 80-90% of the browser
market. Are you writing apps that target Chrome and Firefox right now? Same
thing.
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From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011
I'm not writing apps that target any browser. I'm writing apps that work
in all of them. And I consider it bad practice not to do so.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM, andy matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote:
Not fair to say stupid enough.
Many of those apps were written back when IE6
I'm sure you do, good for you. Were you around during the late 90s and the
browser wars? We didn't have the luxury in many cases of either
cross-browser libraries or foresight enough to think a specific browser
would be around for a decade.
andy
-Original Message-
From: Maureen
cross-browser libraries or foresight enough to think a specific browser
would be around for a decade.
+1 You can't write cross browser code for a browser that did not exist. IE
6 is the new Netscape.
G!
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:49 PM, andy matthews li...@commadelimited.comwrote:
I'm sure
I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars.
It wasn't a luxury to make the sites work for all browsers, it was a
necessity, and should have been part of the budget for every project,
although I know it wasn't.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 6:49 PM, andy matthews
Well, in some cases for example, there were these things called COM
objects that were used to provide functionality that wasn't possible in
a cross-browser manner.
On 11/16/11 7:28 PM, Maureen wrote:
I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars.
It wasn't a luxury
I've been around since 1952, so yeah, I was there for the browser wars.
It wasn't a luxury to make the sites work for all browsers, it was a
necessity, and should have been part of the budget for every project,
although I know it wasn't.
Well, no, it clearly wasn't a necessity, as we can see
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