[cfaussie] CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Dmitry Yakhnov
Hi ppl, Just couple other reasons to move out from CF to ASP.NET (as few clients told): - CF hosting is expensive - Easy to find employees with Java/.NET experience - Trends to keep everything around MS Best regards, Dmitry Yakhnov Web Developer

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread M@ Bourke
Just couple other reasons to move out from CF to ASP.NET (as few clients told):Your saying we should move from cf to asp.net ?CF hosting is expensiveIf cf hosting is to expensive for an employer what makes you think they are going to be able to afford your wage? if a few hundred $'s every year is

[cfaussie] Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!

2006-08-07 Thread Darren Tracey
Unfortunately, due to reasons beyond my control, tonight's QLD CFUG meeting will have to be postponed again. It will now be held on Tuesday the 15th of August. I apologise for any inconvenience this may cause anybody. Rest assured that the fantastic software and book door prizes will still be

[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!

2006-08-07 Thread Chad Renando
Keep going into September and I might be able to attend... Chad On 8/8/06, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, due to reasons beyond my control, tonight's QLD CFUG meeting will have to be postponed again. It will now be held on Tuesday the 15th of August. I apologise for

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Barry Beattie
ignore him, the guy's obviously trolling. a couple of glib statements to see who'll bite does not an informed discourse make... I'm actually feeling sorry for the .NET everything ppl**. eg: FlexDataServices is a J2EE app and will prob NEVER be ported over to the .NET runtime ** not

[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!

2006-08-07 Thread Barry Beattie
my guess is that Darren's having trouble finding a big enough venue to fit everyone in. they've torn down Festival Hall so that really only leaves Suncorp stadium... On 8/8/06, Chad Renando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keep going into September and I might be able to attend... Chad On

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Chad Renando
Don't assume he's trolling. We've all asked these questions... and all of us who have been on the front-end of a CF dev house have run into these arguments. The potential client didn't take to well when I said Oh yeah? Well you're just trolling, so shut up! The guy is CF certified and omits

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Dale Fraser
I agree with Chad (Ajax Master). I think he is legit, the way I answer this question is as follows. JSP / .NET will take at least twice as long to develop anything, so you will be well and truly ahead cost wise after a single project. This is maintained going forward with updates /

[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!

2006-08-07 Thread cfgroupie
We are going to Suncorp stadium...ROCKIN I'm in. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread cfgroupie
Guys Guys Guys, Like I said many posts ago. Its not only hosting, trends, and programmers that are the issue. It is the company directors that make the decesions. i.e. I have reason to believe we are sleeping with the enemy...(MS that is) and because we get special treats to work in .NET or

[cfaussie] Re: more rumours

2006-08-07 Thread cfgroupie
HAhahahha...M@ dood your so on it! you crack me up man! J. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[cfaussie] Re: Another QLD CFUG date change, sorry!

2006-08-07 Thread Chad Renando
If you book it out long-term, maybe I can crash there until we buy a house... Chad On 8/8/06, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to Suncorp stadium...ROCKIN I'm in. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Dmitry Yakhnov
Whatta nice discussion has raised my post, LOL ;-) Jeremy is right that company directors makes the decisions, not developers; while my message was about why directors thinking that .NET is better than CF trends, jobs market and someone told me. Best regards,   Dmitry Yakhnov Web

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Robin Hilliard
On 08/08/2006, at 10:37 AM, Dmitry Yakhnov wrote:Jeremy is right that "company directors makes the decisions", not developers;So give them another decision they're actually qualified to make i.e how much do you want to spend on development hours building this business solution - x in CF or 3x in

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Andrew Scott
Yes, very interesting thread. The trends are not always good, and sometimes the people at the top dont make the right decisions either. We are both a java and CF house, we have been trying to recruit Java developers and a few C# gurus for 3 months and not too many have been able to do

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Chad Renando
Although I will say that you guys are not alone. The industry-spanning skills shortage issue is the current hot topic in my HR course for my MBA ticket. This could easily branch out into discussions on the strategic decision-making process and influcence of HR and needs requirements... Chad

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Barry Beattie
's funny y' know I would have thought that RubyOnRails would have been the target of get out of CF and head to ... not the big lumbering mass that is ASP.NET (or Java/JSP for that matter) On 8/8/06, Chad Renando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I will say that you guys are not alone.

[cfaussie] Re: CF vs ...

2006-08-07 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Well I live in Canberra and there seems to be no CF work at all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from