[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Mark Mandel
Honestly, I don't actually ever do any branching. Everything pretty much goes on in trunk. If I ever do branching, it's because I've got a stable build of something that people are bug fixing, and i want to keep a series of new features separate from that build. Then bug fixes can be incorporat

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread AJ Mercer
I think this is what I am after http://ariejan.net/2006/11/22/svn-how-to-fix-bugs-properly/ Basically, it say to create a pre and psot bug fix tag, then merge changes from pre to post into the trunk. On 4/24/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Fusioneers, > > I have finally set up

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Ok here is how it should be used, as per the documentation that Subversions recommends. But there is no fast and hard rules for this. Now with the following, it would be so nice that I could do this with databases as well:-( Anyway, trunk is the absolute repository of all changes and is considere

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Scott
Actually it says if you think the bug might effect the current release. Thats a different thing. But yes merge and diff is you friend in those cases. On 4/24/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think this is what I am after >http://ariejan.net/2006/11/22/svn-how-to-fix-bugs-prope

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Toby Tremayne
Hi AJ, depends on what you're doing. If you're talking about an application that is in production yet has ongoing development as well as maintenance, something like this is good: Ongoing normal development is done in the trunk. When you have a stable release, tag it, and create a

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread AJ Mercer
Thanks Everyone - starting to get it a bit more now. Getting stuff into subversion is easy - getting it out is a bit more trickier than I imagined :-) All the developers will be developing locally (on their own PC). The is a test server were developers deploy their mods for user testing. Once the

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Scott
AJ, This is going to open up a lot of debate.. My first question to you would be this, what methodolgy do you use for development and I would seriously think about this before you go any further. There is a reason I say this, and it is all down to your team / individual and I have been guilt

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread AJ Mercer
I didn't mean to give the impression that each developer had their own branch - they have their own ColdFusion environment with code checked out from the trunk (or switched to a branch). Thanks for the tip on when to check in files - that makes things a lot simpler. Only check in completed work.

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Scott
*lol* After re reading your post, how the hell did I come to that conclusion:-( Anyway, I sugest really reading that manual for Subversion it is worth the read on how branches / merging. I am still reading it myself for the 3rd time as there is a lot to take in. But I will say if you haven't look

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Someone made a huge deal about "request" vars. And it was not moi lol! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fr

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Zac Spitzer
branches / tags (they are same thing in svn) are cheap and fast in subversion, they are just a refernce in the svn db until you make any changes, this is a big advantage over cvs as long as you know the commit number ( subversion use a single counter to track all the changes), you can always cre

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Andrew Scott
On 4/24/07, Zac Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > one thing to watch is creating too many tags/branches, coz checking > our the root of the repository will have many copies Hmmm, not true. thats just badly setup. > i've always found not branching unless you have to is a lot easier yes tha

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Simon Haddon
Hi, I think that when to check in a file is a deveopers choice. Sure you want to check in working units of work but it is also good for placing a checkpoint of your code. Or even for placing a CFC in with just the API defined. It doesn't realy matter. It is your change/release management that

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-24 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Andrew must be the bees knees and lifelong expert for CFML development. Can I still extend my MyLar sails, catching the solar winds and saving the planet? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" gr

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-25 Thread Andrew Scott
Peter, At least with my expereince and knowledge I earn more than $21 an hour. I also did say it will open a debate... The reason being is that people do their development differenlty, and I stand by by my comments on this matter. If I as a developer was to make changes to the code, and its not

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread AJ Mercer
If you SWITCH between the trunk and branches with out doing a commit, wont you loose your changes? On 4/25/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Peter, > > At least with my expereince and knowledge I earn more than $21 an hour. > > I also did say it will open a debate... > > The reason b

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
yes that is correct. On 4/26/07, AJ Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you SWITCH between the trunk and branches with out doing a commit, wont > you loose your changes? > > On 4/25/07, Andrew Scott < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Peter, > > > > At least with my expereince and knowledge

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat
I have another take on this subversion issue... 1. we use a shared development server instead of each developer having their own working copy. why ? a. designers & project managers have no idea about subversion. they want to see what the current state of development is by looking at the dev ser

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
Pat, That is very bad and here is why!! First of all, it isn't very hard to setup up a staging server, and when that is done and your happy that the build is stable you can export to the staging server. But the biggest headache for this model is down time, every time I have come across this dev

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Haikal Saadh
Good god. You've brought back nightmares of what our setup was like 2 or 3 years ago. Someone would run a big query, bring the server down, and it was time for a coffee break while the server rebooted. Or worse. Someone would get confused and overwrite someone else's changes, and shouting matc

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat
in our experience of using shared development the downtime is minimal. and who do you have to explain it to ? downtime on testing and production servers is another issue, but while your in development if someone changes something that breaks what your working on, they will know about it very quick

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Andrew Scott
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 10:50 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion in our experience of using shared development the downtime is minimal. and who do you have to explain it to ? downtime on testing and production servers is another issue,

[cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion

2007-04-26 Thread Pat Branley
> -Original Message- > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Pat > Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 10:50 AM > To: cfaussie > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Subversion > > in our experience of using shared development the downtime