And don't forget http://crbug.com/27594: Alt key doesn't focus Page
Menu
On Nov 29, 11:22 pm, PhistucK phist...@gmail.com wrote:
Trying it out, I just noticed that when you press Tab while on the Go\Stop
button, nothing is focused. Another Tab will make the focus go to the Page
menu.
My guess
Trying it out, I just noticed that when you press Tab while on the Go\Stop
button, nothing is focused. Another Tab will make the focus go to the Page
menu.
My guess is that the problem is the hidden Bookmarks button.
☆PhistucK
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 03:21, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org
So, the background story here is as follows: in Windows, the typical toolbar
will have one tabstop (accessible through tab or shift-tab) on the whole
toolbar, and buttons will then be traversable using left and right arrow
keys. For instance, this behavior can be seen in the Quick Launch toolbar,
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Finnur Thorarinsson fin...@chromium.orgwrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the point in making a toolbar as a
whole focusable. The keyboard shortcut should put focus on the first element
in the toolbar and tab should cycle focus from there.
^^^ this
PK
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:32 PM, Finnur Thorarinsson fin...@chromium.orgwrote:
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the point in making a toolbar as a
whole focusable. The keyboard shortcut should put focus on the first element
in the toolbar and tab should cycle focus from there.
The goal was
+1. To a beginner, left and right arrow might be more intuitive and an
opportunity for us to innovate. But millions of people use screenreaders,
have trouble using the mouse, or are just power users who love keyboard
shortcuts, and we're just frustrating them by not letting them use
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Jay Campan jcam...@chromium.org wrote:
+1. To a beginner, left and right arrow might be more intuitive and an
opportunity for us to innovate. But millions of people use
screenreaders,
have trouble using the mouse, or are just power users who love keyboard
Hi everyone,
I was experimenting on how to visualize when we focus different tabs, and
(from a bug I was working on http://crbug.com/15228) I realized a few stuff.
If we enable IsFocusable for all the toolbars we have in Chromium, we will
have this good (or some people might be annoyed by it)
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the point in making a toolbar as a whole
focusable. The keyboard shortcut should put focus on the first element in
the toolbar and tab should cycle focus from there.
and when we press ALT+T+TAB ...
I hope you mean ALT+T and then TAB because ALT+T+TAB is a
Sounds good to me.
-Scott
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jonas Klink (Google)
kl...@chromium.org wrote:
So, to clarify, we would then use ALT+SHIFT+T (currently focusing the
toolbar), to cycle keyboard focus through any open toolbars
(toolbar-bookmark bar-infobar (restore tabs etc, if
+ CC Scott and Evan, to maintain a good story cross-platform. Any
suggestions for a keyboard model here?
I'd really like to stay away from the long, complex keyboard combos, also
because noone will ever discover that they are there...
- Jonas
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote:
CTRL+SHIFT+T --- Main Toolbar
CTRL+SHIFT+B --- Main Bookmarks bar
CTRL+SHIFT+E --- Extension bar
I really don't like this. These are hard to discover and use. Besides, you
can't use two of these three: ctrl-shift-t
I find our accessibility story a bit confusing since we don't allow
most of the browser UI to be focused. That is, pressing tab in the
URL bar doesn't do what tab normally does. I guess there's some other
key that puts the browser into accessible mode? In that case, I would
want to reuse that
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote:
CTRL+SHIFT+T --- Main Toolbar
CTRL+SHIFT+B --- Main Bookmarks bar
CTRL+SHIFT+E --- Extension bar
I really don't like this. These are hard
Indeed. We need to be very careful not to over-use keyboard shortcuts.
We will regret it later if we do.
-Ben
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:51 PM,
FWIW, on OS X there's a system setting for Tab cycles through
everything or just important things in sysprefs-accessibility (I
think. Not at my mac right now).
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Scott Violet s...@chromium.org wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com
wrote: It seems like when these bars are open, their contents should be in
the tab
order. You should be able to tab through the contents of a page,
What kind of accelerators do would you like to have? Maybe have
a accelerator that traverses only toolbars, and once we are in that toolbar,
we can tab through the widgets.
-Mohamed
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Peter Kasting pkast...@google.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM,
I would just use the existing accelerator we have to focus the toolbar.
-Scott
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org wrote:
What kind of accelerators do would you like to have? Maybe have
a accelerator that traverses only toolbars, and once we are in that
What would differentiate which toolbar is currently focused? Would it be
ideal to assume the first widget in that toolbar would be focused
(hotkeyed), or we would draw some sort of ring around the whole toolbar?
-Mohamed
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jonas Klink (Google)
Building on what we already have sounds good to me.
-Ben
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jonas Klink (Google)
kl...@chromium.org wrote:
So, to clarify, we would then use ALT+SHIFT+T (currently focusing the
toolbar), to cycle keyboard focus through any open toolbars
(toolbar-bookmark
From an accessibility point-of-view, I'd prefer having the first widget in
each toolbar focused when the toolbar itself gains focus (including
hottracked and displaying any tooltip that is displayed on mouseover of this
widget).
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Mohamed Mansour m...@chromium.org
I agree with James, ALT keys should be only used for accessibility, if we
want to be able to allow keyboard shortcuts to other toolbars, we need to
reorganize our current ones. It would be nice to have the following
combinations:
CTRL+SHIFT+T --- Main Toolbar
CTRL+SHIFT+B --- Main Bookmarks bar
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:40:07AM -0400, Mohamed Mansour wrote:
Hi all, (need UI team feedback and other keyboard guru's)
We need a more coherent story for accessing various toolbars. The current
toolbars that exist right now are:
- Toolbar
- Bookmark bar
- Extension bar
-
2009/9/26 Jacob Mandelson ja...@mandelson.org
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:40:07AM -0400, Mohamed Mansour wrote:
Hi all, (need UI team feedback and other keyboard guru's)
We need a more coherent story for accessing various toolbars. The current
toolbars that exist right now are:
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