Re: [CinCVS] HDV to DVD (interlaced and PAL)

2007-02-01 Thread Dan Streetman
Ick, it's the 4:2:0 chroma sampling, I believe. Why oh why doesn't HDV use 4:1:1 or 4:2:2? Does anyone know if there is any good way to handle this? The 1080to540 effect, as far as I can tell, does 4-row field averaging to overcome this which doesn't sound to me to be the best method. Is it?

Re: [CinCVS] HDV to DVD (interlaced and PAL)

2007-02-01 Thread Dan Streetman
Ok, don't use that yet! :) The color interlacing is wrong, in my tests at least. On 1/31/07, Dan Streetman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok try the attached patch (i.e. apply and rebuild cinelerra) and then: 1) load HDV track (make sure track size matches HDV size, e.g. 1440x1080) 2) add "Frames

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 03:45:24PM -0500, Wesley T Allen wrote: > On Thursday 01 February 2007 1:46 pm, Cory K. wrote: > > Well yes. Thats what we have to do. Go through every file to check for a > > license header. If theres none or a GLP header we're good. If there does > > happen to be one thats

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Cory K.
Wesley - Thats the plan. To grep through for typical words, "LGPL" "Artistic" "whatever". If nothing pops up we're just gonna submit the package for review. If we do see files that come up with other licenses we will have to go through all the files. Wesley T Allen wrote: > On Thursday 01 February

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Wesley T Allen
On Thursday 01 February 2007 1:46 pm, Cory K. wrote: > Well yes. Thats what we have to do. Go through every file to check for a > license header. If theres none or a GLP header we're good. If there does > happen to be one thats licensed otherwise we have to note that > difference in the debian/copy

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Cory K.
Well yes. Thats what we have to do. Go through every file to check for a license header. If theres none or a GLP header we're good. If there does happen to be one thats licensed otherwise we have to note that difference in the debian/copyright file. Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof wrote: > Maybe it's a s

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Alexis Ballier
Hi, > Gentoo and *BSD users compile everything without complaining? Why? > Because most of the time compilation is dead simple on those platforms. > It Just Works. It is actually supposed to be that way on Debian, too. > There is a reason Gentoo-ers have claimed Cinelerra is broken beyond > re

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Jeroen van de Nieuwenhof
Maybe it's a stupid question, but how can you make sure a file is or isn't gpl? Should there be a header in the file containing the license of it's lgpl or other? Regards, Jeroen Cory K. schreef: Ok. So heres what its coming down to. We have to do a full review of _every_ file to make sure t

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Cory K.
Ok. So heres what its coming down to. We have to do a full review of _every_ file to make sure their all GPL. We cant take it on faith. The license file is good enough for the admins as long as the other files dont conflict. So if we come across 1 file that is LGPL or Artistic licensed it will be r

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
2007/2/1, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Valentina's are both (just have a look at the apt-source lines on the "Get Cinelerra" page). just for clarification. mine's are source too. just add deb-src to he repo. regards -- ^ ^ O O (_ _) muzzol(a)gmail.co

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Herman Robak
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 10:46 +0100, Sylvain Jousse wrote: > Salut Herman, > > You all speak about compiling. I intended to use the packages > of Valentina and Muzzol to avoid compiling, but maybe I misunderstood. > Are theses packages source-packages to compile or executable packages? Valentina's

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:54:58AM -0500, Cory K. wrote: > Look, in the end all we want is help. I havnt seen 1 post that gives us > that. > > Lack of effort isnt the reason it hasnt made it into distros like Fedora > or Debian. Their are issues. People may feel they are distro issues but > they a

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Andraž Tori
What kind of help ? We have clarified all the issues we can clarify. Now we are waiting for patches that would bring cinelerra more in line with your policies for inclusion... we have also given you the assurance that patches will be accepted as long as they don't break anything, so any positive w

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Cory K.
Look, in the end all we want is help. I havnt seen 1 post that gives us that. Lack of effort isnt the reason it hasnt made it into distros like Fedora or Debian. Their are issues. People may feel they are distro issues but they are issues none-the-less. Getting Cinelerra into distros repositories

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
2007/2/1, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Getting Cinelerra to go in the official repositories of Debian *IS NOT* just about adding a few lines header to each sources file and deciding to be the maintainer. we know. this is actually the extra work we are doing to acomplish that goal. if

Re: [CinCVS] gpl headers

2007-02-01 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
Getting Cinelerra to go in the official repositories of Debian *IS NOT* just about adding a few lines header to each sources file and deciding to be the maintainer. Some thoughs: - Can we add headers in file we didn't developped ourselves? Only one person knows for sure where the code comes from

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Stian Rødven Eide
Here's a nice tutorial on installing Cinelerra in Ubuntu 6.10 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320701&highlight=cinelerra peace, Stian Torsdag 01 februar 2007 04:38 skreiv Jim Smyth: > I would have to recommend Ubuntu as well. It's pretty easy to setup and and > Synaptic (yes I know D

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
2007/2/1, Andraž Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: this is offtopic. anyone wanting to discuss debian/unbuntu/other distrost politics, history or anything else, please move to some other list/private if you want to continue agree. sorry. :) bye andraz -- ^ ^ O O

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
Do you compare me with Bush? Talking about a computer distribution is something. Doing personnal attacks on someone you don't know is something totally different. Before talking about FUD, you should think twice before posting things like this on a mailing-list. i was just making a joke. sorry

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Andraž Tori
this is offtopic. anyone wanting to discuss debian/unbuntu/other distrost politics, history or anything else, please move to some other list/private if you want to continue bye andraz On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:19 +0100, Nicolas Maufrais wrote: > On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:22:09AM +0100, muzzol wro

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:22:09AM +0100, muzzol wrote: > >in Ubuntu is the fact that it's actually a company. While Debian > >isn't... > > > > false. ubuntu is free. canonical is a company. if canonical goes down > ubuntu remains free. if canonical decides to release a commercial > version of ub

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Sylvain Jousse
Salut Nicolas, I am very sorry, I didn't want to initate a troll at all. My question was NOT what is the best, Ubuntu or Debian. As some of us are working on packages for Ubuntu and Debian, my question was "which of these packages" is the most ready-to-use?". That's all. Anyway, for my self, I us

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
2007/2/1, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Does anyone actually used Debian for a while and then decided to move to Ubuntu? /me raises his hand as someone said, sometimes you want to stop playing and wants to start producing. ubuntu is very straight forward so lets you decide where do you

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Marcin Kostur
I use debian at work (~80 PCs with central install/admin via FAI), stable version only. It works nice, but it outdated. 1-2 years after bleeding edge. Ubuntu at home - latest stable version. It does not matter if ubuntu is .com or .org, code is GPL and both debian and ubuntu are free to the same

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
Does anyone actually used Debian for a while and then decided to move to Ubuntu? Some of you recommend Ubuntu because of some advantages which is fact directly come from Debian (Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian). Without Debian, Ubuntu wouldn't have existed at all. What I don't like in Ubuntu is t

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Sylvain Jousse
Salut Herman, You all speak about compiling. I intended to use the packages of Valentina and Muzzol to avoid compiling, but maybe I misunderstood. Are theses packages source-packages to compile or executable packages? Thanks, Sylvain. ___

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Marcin Kostur
Ubuntu! Since I use ubuntu, I do not spent any time for system config, kernel compilation etc. It just works. /* Yeah, i know it was fun to compile kernel, patch X11 etc., but doing that 2x a year to keep updated with bleeding edge was rather tiring. */ Marcin - using only linux for work, leis

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread muzzol
you can use apt-get build-dep package to perform that operation. is not focused to standard users so im not sure if you'll find it on front-ends like synaptic. 2007/2/1, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 22:38 -0500, Jim Smyth wrote: > I would have to recommend Ubuntu as

Re: [CinCVS] Witch distro

2007-02-01 Thread Herman Robak
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 22:38 -0500, Jim Smyth wrote: > I would have to recommend Ubuntu as well. It's pretty easy to setup > and and Synaptic (yes I know Debian has it too) will help greatly when > building Cinelerra. Cinelerra has its own particularly difficult > dependency hunt when building from