Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-10 Thread Joe Stewart
On Friday 09 June 2006 20:33, Andraz Tori wrote: > you get a framework by copying fileogg.h and .C to filempegps.h/C ... > then you just throw out all ogg specific parts and put mpeg in... then > you add all the necessary options to file.C/.h Yep. So now I have to fully comprehend Ogg as well as M

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-09 Thread Andraz Tori
On pet, 2006-06-09 at 11:00 -0400, Joe Stewart wrote: > So, I'm motivated to put some serious work into a libavformat-based MPEG-PS > encoder, but I need help, mostly in getting the rough framework designed. > Anyone else working on this want to collaborate? you get a framework by copying fileog

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-09 Thread Joe Stewart
On Friday 09 June 2006 05:26, Dimitrios wrote: > Cinelerra needs to do things cleanly, without using linux-specific hacks > with pipes and scripts. > > I've been around this mailing list for a month or so and while i've got > cinelerra installed on my system, i'm still not using it. > > I'll wait f

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-09 Thread Dimitrios
I agree with Herman on this issue. Cinelerra needs to do things cleanly, without using linux-specific hacks with pipes and scripts. I've been around this mailing list for a month or so and while i've got cinelerra installed on my system, i'm still not using it. I'll wait for another month or s

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-06 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:00:40 +0200, Christoph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 10:17 +0930, Jonathan Woithe wrote: However, perhaps the DV framework could be used as the basis for something since as has been pointed out, the DV export option is one of few (perhaps the only one?

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-06-06 Thread Christoph
On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 10:17 +0930, Jonathan Woithe wrote: > The biggest problem is that libdv's PAL encoder is buggy (I've never tried > NTSC) and introduces considerable artifacts which are particularly > noticeable during moderate horizontal movement. ffmpeg is better but still > (as of 6 months

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Jonathan Woithe
> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:36:13PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > > I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one > > of Cinelerra's output formats, with a DVD compability setting. > > > > Cinelerra already supports rendering raw MPEG video and audio streams, > > but not simultan

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 30 May 2006 20:53:58 +0200, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The only _right_way_ is using ffmpeg library from cinelerra and producing the multiplexed files directly, without any pipes, middle-encoding or anything else. And this is what I want, with a few presets. Maybe an "adv

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Nathan Kurz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:58:00PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote: > >The other way to approach this problem is to use YUV4MPEG (or similar > >uncompressed format), and seperately export audio the same pipe that > >it is using. This would be a fine solution too (perhaps even a better > >one) although

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Dan Streetman
On Tue, 30 May 2006, Nathan Kurz wrote: >The only problem with YUV4MPEG is that it is video only. The easiest >way to do this export is with a container that supports both audio and >video. DV is a convenient example of a format that meets this need. >The worry about the encode/decode is valid,

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Andraz Tori
On tor, 2006-05-30 at 10:49 -0600, Nathan Kurz wrote: > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:39:31PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote: > > > > On Tue, 30 May 2006, Nathan Kurz wrote: > > >In case anyone is thinking about this, one way to accomplish this > > >would be changing the DV output so it can be written to

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Nicolas
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:23:04PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > On Tue, 30 May 2006 17:07:12 +0200, Nathan Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:36:13PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > >>I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one > >>of Cinelerra's outpu

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 30 May 2006 18:49:52 +0200, Nathan Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:39:31PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote: I agree it's a great bounty (and motivation to do it, as I have been thinking about doing it for a while - all my cinelerra use is to make DVDs). I agree t

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Herman Robak
On Tue, 30 May 2006 17:07:12 +0200, Nathan Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:36:13PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one of Cinelerra's output formats, with a DVD compability setting. Cinelerra already supports ren

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Nathan Kurz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:39:31PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote: > > On Tue, 30 May 2006, Nathan Kurz wrote: > >In case anyone is thinking about this, one way to accomplish this > >would be changing the DV output so it can be written to a pipe. > >Currently, it uses fseek's that can only be done on

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Dan Streetman
On Tue, 30 May 2006, Nathan Kurz wrote: >On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:36:13PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: >> I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one >> of Cinelerra's output formats, with a DVD compability setting. >> >> Cinelerra already supports rendering raw MPEG video an

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Joe Stewart
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 11:07, Nathan Kurz wrote: > In case anyone is thinking about this, one way to accomplish this > would be changing the DV output so it can be written to a pipe. > Currently, it uses fseek's that can only be done on files. Once it > can be piped out, one can use the ffmpeg too

Re: [CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Nathan Kurz
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:36:13PM +0200, Herman Robak wrote: > I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one > of Cinelerra's output formats, with a DVD compability setting. > > Cinelerra already supports rendering raw MPEG video and audio streams, > but not simultaneously, and

[CinCVS] New Bounty: Rendering directly to the MPEG PS container. 200 EUR

2006-05-30 Thread Herman Robak
I offer 200 Euro to the one who adds MPEG Program Stream as one of Cinelerra's output formats, with a DVD compability setting. Cinelerra already supports rendering raw MPEG video and audio streams, but not simultaneously, and no multiplexing. This means Cinelerra can not render DVD-ready MPEG2 f