BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-18 Thread Tom Pruneau
Greetings All I am in the process of writing a BGP class, at present I am specifically working on a section covering dampening. My question is "what is a flap" The two possible answers are: Answer one A flap is whenever path information changes for a route. By this definition if a route goes

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-18 Thread Jim Erickson
My vote would be #2. Simply based on the definition of the verb 'flap': "To wave ... up *and* down." [emphasis added] http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=flap ---JRE--- ""Tom Pruneau"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greetings All > > I am in the proc

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-18 Thread John Neiberger
A flap occurs when a router receives an advertisement for a prefix and then subsequently receives a "withdraw" update. That is one flap. If it comes up and goes back down again, that is two flaps total. At least, that's how I remember it. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Regards, John

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I think from BGP's point of view a flap is a withdrawal and announcement of a routing prefix. Howard Berkowitz will know for sure. Did you check his BGP papers at http://www.certificationzone.com. Also there's a good paper here: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-178.html Cisco often uses the

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Stephen Skinner
illa Oppenheimer" >Reply-To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128] >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:09:50 -0400 > >I think from BGP's point of view a flap is a withdrawal and announcement of >a routin

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Stephen Skinner
t;whole" as one flap? Am i going mad. Cheers steve "my mum always said it`s only an exam...PAH...what the heck do she know" >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" >Reply-To: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: BGP

RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Andy Prima
limit, the route is advertised again (if it is still UP). Hope this can help :) Andy -Original Message- From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128] I always thought of a

RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Stephen Skinner
hooray . it looks like as thought i was right about the term flap..just wrong about BGP ..thanks for the info chhers steve >From: Andy Prima >To: "'Stephen Skinner'" , [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128] >Date:

RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
OTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:53 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128] > > >I always thought of a "Flap" as a generic term meaning when a >route/interface/serial-line goes full-circle.regardless of pr

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Jason J. Roysdon
(if it is still UP). > > > > > >Hope this can help :) > > > >Andy > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:53 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subj

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
ute is UP. >> >The accumulated penalty is decremented by the half-life time. When the >> >accumulated penalty is less than the reuse limit, the route is advertised >> >again (if it is still UP). >> > >> > >> >Hope this can help :) >> &

RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-19 Thread ElephantChild
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > It doesn't answer the question. It says there's a penalty for each flap. Is > there a penalty for > > 1. each time a route goes down > or > 2. each time a route goes down and back up > > The answer is probably number 2, as the orignal poster t

RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-20 Thread Stephen Skinner
;From: "ElephantChild" >Reply-To: "ElephantChild" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128] >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:39:20 -0400 > >On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > > It doesn't answer the que

Re: BGP Dampening, What is a flap? [7:1128]

2001-04-28 Thread Jason
Answer 1 is correct. A flap is one transition, either from down to up or from up to down. ""Tom Pruneau"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greetings All > > I am in the process of writing a BGP class, at present I am specifically > working on a section covering dam

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2001-04-19 Thread Jason J. Roysdon
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