Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-28 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
OK, if we really want to get nitty-gritty: The jam signal is 32 bits. The preamble is 10101010 etc, or AA in HEX. The last byte is 10101011, or AB. You can actually see AAs sometimes on a Sniffer when there's a collision and the Sniffer captures someone else's preamble on the end of a frame.

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-28 Thread John lay
> was kinda interesting. > > Shawn > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:06 PM > To: Andy Walden; John lay > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re

Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread Jeff Kell
"Bowen, Shawn" wrote: > > I believe we are saying mostly the same thing. Your "* Extended carrier to > indicate busy (assert carrier beyond the length of the packet)." Is an > Ethernet JAM signal. > And I also guess I wanted to point out that the Cisco documentation is > not "always" 100% accu

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread John lay
thought this > was kinda interesting. > > Shawn > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:06 PM > To: Andy Walden; John lay > Cc: [EM

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-27 Thread Tony van Ree
16 AM > To: Bowen, Shawn > Cc: Priscilla Oppenheimer; Andy Walden; John lay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??) > > "Bowen, Shawn" wrote: > > > > Yup, makes sense. I can only speak for 3Com on this one, but I bel

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Bowen, Shawn
j/k Shawn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Kell Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:16 AM To: Bowen, Shawn Cc: Priscilla Oppenheimer; Andy Walden; John lay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Bowen, Shawn
ld. Shawn -Original Message- From: Jeff Kell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 12:16 AM To: Bowen, Shawn Cc: Priscilla Oppenheimer; Andy Walden; John lay; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??) "Bowen, Shawn" wro

Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Jeff Kell
"Bowen, Shawn" wrote: > > Yup, makes sense. I can only speak for 3Com on this one, but I believe > Cisco implements similar features. On a 3Com Corebuilder (as well as their > Workgroup Switches) they use fake collisions as a flow control mechanism. > In other words if there was contention at t

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Bowen, Shawn
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:06 PM To: Andy Walden; John lay Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??) I think what John is getting at is that there is still contention. In his example wit

Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
I think what John is getting at is that there is still contention. In his example with two clients trying to reach one server, there's contention at the switch, and at the server possibly. There's no contention on the medium itself. There's only one device trying to send at any one time. The sw

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread MCDONALD, ROMAN (SBCSI)
Remember - Full Duplex needs microsegmentation. -Original Message- From: Bowen, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 8:30 AM To: John lay; Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??) Good Question Jon

Re: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Andy Walden
This is correct. You don't use full duplex if you are competing for bandwidth, ie, plugged into a hub. But if you are plugged into a switch, there is only one bandwidth domain between the device and switch and with nothing competing for the bandwidth on that link so you can go full duplex. andy

RE: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread Bowen, Shawn
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John lay Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 6:51 AM To: Priscilla Oppenheimer; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??) Priscilla, everybody, I am confused. Ethernet and FastEthernet uses the CSMA/CD as a channel alloc

Confused (was Re: is this statement true ??)

2000-12-26 Thread John lay
Priscilla, everybody, I am confused. Ethernet and FastEthernet uses the CSMA/CD as a channel allocation techinque in a shared media access envoiroment. Here it comes the confusion, when you are saying that the Full-duplex does not support CSMA/CD because the transmit and receive are on different