Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread John Hardman
Hi And thanks one and all for the help! I feel a lot more confident in my understanding. It has been my understanding that the sending host would always send any retransmitts, with the exception of something like a X25 or LLC2 network in between hosts. But I got to reading a bit more on RSRB an

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>John Neiberger wrote, >Someone who knows more about the specifics than I do will correct me if >I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly HDLC will not retransmit due to a >line error. And again, IIRC, neither does PPP, frame relay, or >ethernet. My impression is that those protocols utilize er

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread John Neiberger
Someone who knows more about the specifics than I do will correct me if I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly HDLC will not retransmit due to a line error. And again, IIRC, neither does PPP, frame relay, or ethernet. My impression is that those protocols utilize error detection, but not error c

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread John Neiberger
I did read your statement correctly. Which datalink protocols retransmit errored frames without the knowledge of the host? Are there some that do it by default? Are there some that don't do this by default but can be configured to do so? >>> "Brandon Ripper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/26/01 12:43

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Brandon Ripper
Why not take a look at X.25 the protocol accounted for "missing frames". I'm not sure about the specifics of what HDLC does if a CRC error occurs, but I'd imagine it would re-transmit At 01:16 PM 3/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >I did read your statement correctly. > >Which datalink protocols retra

RE: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >John Hardman >Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:37 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Dumb question of retansmits > > >Hi All, > >I know I should know this, but frankly I can not remember the details to >save my life... > >Let's say we

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Brandon Ripper
What can be seen by my statement is that the host would re-transmit unless there was a CRC problem on the serial link that the protocol corrected on its own. Please read more carefully. At 11:40 AM 3/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >Lest we go through all of this again, a few weeks ago there was a gr

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread John Neiberger
Lest we go through all of this again, a few weeks ago there was a great thread on this very topic. The resolution was that in just about every situation, it is the hosts that do the retransmitting, NOT the routers! To find out why, go to the archives and search through the last three months for

RE: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread jbullock
nt: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Dumb question of retansmits Hi All, I know I should know this, but frankly I can not remember the details to save my life... Let's say we have two routers connected over a serial link, they are doing routing, not bridging. I

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Hi All, > >I know I should know this, but frankly I can not remember the details to >save my life... > >Let's say we have two routers connected over a serial link, they are doing >routing, not bridging. If the serial line takes a hit who is responsible for >retransmitting? The sending host or the

Re: Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread Brandon Ripper
Hello, Well, it depends what type of transmission problem occurs. If a CRC failure occurs on the serial link depending upon the protocol being used between devices then that data may or may not be re-transmitted. However, if either error checking is not present, or the devices do not

Dumb question of retansmits

2001-03-26 Thread John Hardman
Hi All, I know I should know this, but frankly I can not remember the details to save my life... Let's say we have two routers connected over a serial link, they are doing routing, not bridging. If the serial line takes a hit who is responsible for retransmitting? The sending host or the first r