VPNs: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-30 Thread John Neiberger
As some of you can tell I'm on a VPN-related kick lately. Sorry. I just finished reading an interview with Luca Martini and that got me interested in finding out more about L2 VPNs. I'm already getting fairly familiar with RFC 2764-style L3 VPNs, particularly Qwest's PRN offering. After reading

Re: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-30 Thread dre
""John Neiberger"" wrote in message ... > bulk of their traffic. When considering a move to VoIP or expanded > video conferencing this can create some traffic shaping issues. For VoIP, you want to consider a control/data plane that makes this traffic forwarding optimal...the topology is of less c

Re: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-30 Thread John Neiberger
> ""John Neiberger"" wrote in message ... > > bulk of their traffic. When considering a move to VoIP or expanded > > video conferencing this can create some traffic shaping issues. > > For VoIP, you want to consider a control/data plane that makes this > traffic forwarding optimal...the topology i

Re: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-31 Thread John Neiberger
>You have a lot of options. I recommend Sprint first, then Level-3, >then GX. Unless you are already in bed with Qwest or AT&T, they >won't give you the time-of-day for support (and you are going to >need good support for an offering like this). In particular, I >recommend Sprint's PW option (UT

RE: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-31 Thread Truman, Michelle, RTSLS
nal Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: L2 vs L3 [7:73255] >You have a lot of options. I recommend Sprint first, then Level-3, >then GX. Unless you are already in bed with Qwest or AT&T, the

Re: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-31 Thread John Neiberger
John Neiberger 7/31/03 10:36:14 AM >>> >>You have a lot of options. I recommend Sprint first, then Level-3, >>then GX. Unless you are already in bed with Qwest or AT&T, they >>won't give you the time-of-day for support (and you are going to >>need good support for an offering like this). In

RE: L2 vs L3 [7:73255]

2003-07-31 Thread Creighton, Bill, NSPM
Message- > From: Truman, Michelle, RTSLS > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: L2 vs L3 [7:73255] > > > Actually John, contrary to what was stated, AT&T has a really great > bunch of pre-sales engineers who do give customers