L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear All, Need your advice on the following scenario: I am using VLANs to provide the partitons for the traffic (voice and data) from various departments. In order to provide routing between various VLANs, I would need a router to do so. Please advice if there are any difference in the functiona

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-29 Thread The Long and Winding Road
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Dear All, > > Need your advice on the following scenario: > > I am using VLANs to provide the partitons for the traffic (voice and data) > from various departments. In order to provide routing between various > VLANs, I would need a ro

RE: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Lupi, Guy
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166] Dear All, Need your advice on the following scenario: I am using VLANs to provide the partitons for the traffic (voice and data) from var

RE: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166] Dear All, Need your advice on the following scenario: I am using VLANs to provide the partitons for the traffic (voice and data) from various departments. In order to provide rou

RE: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Michael Williams
I'd be careful here. Wouldn't this only be the case (that you would route once, switch many) if you configure MLS on the both the switch and router? i.e. it's possible to have a switch trunk it's vlans to an external router, but without MLS, your router would still process *all* packets crossing

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread s vermill
> 1) define "functionality" > > 2) define "difference" > > in either case, the net result is the same. for inter-vlan > forwarding on the > same box, the integrated L3 switch will be faster because a) > electrons don't > have to travel as far and b) the stripping and rewriting of L2 > headers can

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The cable is probaby very short. The fact that electrons have to travel across it is not a consideration. They travel at about 2/3 the speed of light. Priscilla The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Larry Letterman
where did the other 1/3 of the speed go ? :) Larry Letterman Network Engineer Cisco Systems > The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The cable is probaby > very short. The fact that electrons have to travel across it is not a > consideration. They travel at about 2/3 the speed o

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread s vermill
Larry Letterman wrote: > > where did the other 1/3 of the speed go ? > :) > > > Larry Letterman > Network Engineer > Cisco Systems > > Scenic overlooks, bathroom breaks, and whatnot. There isn't much worth stopping off for in "the vacuum of space." It's kinda like the eastern half of my sta

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The cable is probaby > very short. The fact that electrons have to travel across it is not a > consideration. They travel at about 2/3 the speed of light

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread MADMAN
Hmmm, IOS imgaes that are approaching, (in some cases exceeding) 20M ;) Dave Larry Letterman wrote: > where did the other 1/3 of the speed go ? > :) > > > Larry Letterman > Network Engineer > Cisco Systems > > > >>The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The > > cable is p

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Larry Letterman"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > where did the other 1/3 of the speed go ? > :) consider your relative speed running from building to building on the Cisco campus a) under current conditions, b) if there were no asphalt, but only soft mud, or c)

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""MADMAN"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hmmm, IOS imgaes that are approaching, (in some cases exceeding) 20M ;) speaking of which, how big would the same IOS image be without Banyan, DecNet, Apollo, and all the other obsolete garbage that contaminates them now?

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread s vermill
The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in > message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The > cable is > probaby > > very short. The fact that electrons have to travel across it > is not a > > cons

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Darrell Newcomb
""The Long and Winding Road"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > ""MADMAN"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hmmm, IOS imgaes that are approaching, (in some cases exceeding) 20M ;) > > speaking of which, how big would the same IOS i

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi)
In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote: > speaking of which, how big would the same IOS image be without Banyan, > DecNet, Apollo, and all the other obsolete garbage that contaminates them > now? A bunch of stuff got purged in 12.2(13)T. The images not much of a reduction in size though, new fea

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread s vermill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaj J. Niemi) wrote: > > In mail.net.groupstudy.pro, you wrote: > > speaking of which, how big would the same IOS image be > without Banyan, > > DecNet, Apollo, and all the other obsolete garbage that > contaminates them > > now? > > A bunch of stuff got purged in 12.2(13)T.

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in > message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > The router is probably in the same rack as the switch. The > cable is > probaby > > very short. The fact that electrons have to travel across it > is not a > > cons

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Oops. The last one was a Null Post. I meant to hit the Quote button and hit the Post button instead. I do have a few comments, though, of course. :-) See below. Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > The Long and Winding Road wrote: > > > > ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in > > message > > [EMAIL P

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
MADMAN wrote: > > Hmmm, IOS imgaes that are approaching, (in some cases > exceeding) 20M ;) I'm not sure what your point it, other than to be funny :-), but I do have to say that it doesn't matter that it's a 20 MB file when talking about the file travelling across a fraction of an inch within a

Re: L3 Switching & Swtich/Router Comparsion [7:62166]

2003-01-30 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
(combining two of Priscilla's posts) At 10:52 PM + 1/30/03, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >MADMAN wrote: >> >> Hmmm, IOS imgaes that are approaching, (in some cases >> exceeding) 20M ;) > >I'm not sure what your point it, other than to be funny :-), but I do have >to say that it doesn't mat